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Utter and complete dirge from start to finish. One of the worst performances I've ever seen. Utterly clueless

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Quote: the flying biscuit "We need to get rid of Brown He creates zero and then that impacts our pack ...its why senior players like sims think they have to be creative.

Sims is looking for an offload or even a pass when his job his to put his nose through the line..... he never used to be a massive gain maker but he takes us backwards now because hes trying to create stuff because our current half backs cant.... same with Westerman hes not trying to be a ball playing loose forward hes trying to be an extra stand off and he's getting the way....

in recent times our backrowers offloaded but never looked to be an extra pivot we had Louis Anderson Vinnie Anderson, Westwood and Harrison all making hard yards and only after that do they go looking for a quality offload...

now we've got Hughes Savelio and Westerman not one got hard yards in them.... savelio is the worst back rower I've seen in years....'"

Nomally like your posts...but either your seeing red mist? Or your Bhrams and List.
Westerman was not our worst player vs Leigh.
I really have to blame the lack of hard yards on TS. His constant theory that backs must make most of the runs where we would see forwards at other clubs doing that work. It's no wonder that when we get into a position of strike...the backs are ineffective.

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Let's talk Rugby League ....

Firstly, you lost the game in the forwards, lost most of the collision & gained the least metres. I feared Chris Hill coming back but even he made no difference. I can see him phoning Derek later today asking if he can come back.

The player who caused us the biggest grief was Matty Russell, he found space & was usually quite elusive. Clarke is quality.

Your outside backs were plain poor, though I would like Lineham at Leigh (along with Russel).

Patton should be 1st choice for you, ET was ineffective, even before his injury, by the way, he was falling down before he was hit, yes it was high but it did have an effect on the tackle.

TS has always looked a little bit like he is in a coma, I wouldn't imagine that Jukes could ever be so laid back.

FWIW I believe you will react & destroy Saints.

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Quote: Ste100Centurions "Let's talk Rugby League ....

Firstly, you lost the game in the forwards, lost most of the collision & gained the least metres. I feared Chris Hill coming back but even he made no difference. I can see him phoning Derek later today asking if he can come back.

The player who caused us the biggest grief was Matty Russell, he found space & was usually quite elusive. Clarke is quality.

Your outside backs were plain poor, though I would like Lineham at Leigh (along with Russel).

Patton should be 1st choice for you, ET was ineffective, even before his injury, by the way, he was falling down before he was hit, yes it was high but it did have an effect on the tackle.

TS has always looked a little bit like he is in a coma, I wouldn't imagine that Jukes could ever be so laid back.

FWIW I believe you will react & destroy Saints.'"


Well done on the win, but believe me, Russell is causing us even more grief. I'd swap him for your kitman

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Well said Ste, our forwards seemed to 'run in' a lot harder/faster then the Warrington players, Daryl Clarke was quality, but not too many Wolves players caused us any problems. I know it's just one game, we could play this fixture next week and lose. Can't see them doing a Leeds Rhinos and being in the bottom 4, but confidence will be a problem the longer this losing run goes on, and it's something they are NOT used to.

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Quote: Ste100Centurions "Let's talk Rugby League ....

Firstly, you lost the game in the forwards, lost most of the collision & gained the least metres. I feared Chris Hill coming back but even he made no difference. I can see him phoning Derek later today asking if he can come back.

The player who caused us the biggest grief was Matty Russell, he found space & was usually quite elusive. Clarke is quality.

Your outside backs were plain poor, though I would like Lineham at Leigh (along with Russel).

Patton should be 1st choice for you, ET was ineffective, even before his injury, by the way, he was falling down before he was hit, yes it was high but it did have an effect on the tackle.

TS has always looked a little bit like he is in a coma, I wouldn't imagine that Jukes could ever be so laid back.

FWIW I believe you will react & destroy Saints.'"


Get off the pipe..There wasn't one wire player that caused a problem for Leigh tonight.Wires problem is they are playing as individuals and lacking cohesion..

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Loads of credit to Leigh and Jukes, Good simple game plan, forwards ran hard for 80, handling was good without being classy and they all hit hard. It's proving effective and you can see the confidence not just with buying into what works, but the previous back to back wins too. Wire just need to get back to basics and things will start to happen.belief and confidence is low but that can turn around with one decent performance. Games against Saints and Hull needing the Brisbane attitude to magic itself back.
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I haven't posted on rlfans for a while but first hand know that several Wire first team are being asked to play weeks before they're scheduled to return. No idea of your next few fixtures but playing forwards 3/4 weeks before they should be back is not the answer. You should make the top 8 at a canter if you just ride the injuries out.

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "just got back after blowing a loving gasket in the car park, post match, for 80 minutes we were garbage. Absolutely stinking garbage, and for sons baffling reason the majority of the folks that were still in the stand at the end of the match applauded them.

WTF? Honest to god, there was nothing worth applauding.

As has been said, a bunch of individuals, no leadership, Westwood and gidley should not have been given extensions last season.

It's shocking, last week was bad, this was ten times worse'"

This is all part of the problem, we are a club where perennial underachievement has become accepted, if not encouraged. No doubt the 'it's always our year' flags are freshly washed and ironed, ready for the next home game.

I really do not understand the mentality of those who would stand and clap whatever the result, this is professional sport, not a bunch of ten-year-olds playing after school.

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Does anyone know what our worst league run without a win is?
I suspect we're pretty close to breaking a record.

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Under Anderson and Plange we went 1 win in 9 I think, but that one was a shock win away at Hull early on. 4 or 5 games in I think. So things could arguably be said to have been better under Anderson and Plange. Struth!

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Quote: silver2 "Does anyone know what our worst league run without a win is?
I suspect we're pretty close to breaking a record.'"


I don't know about records but Sky took pleasure in announcing that Leeds won one of their first 5 last season.........and look what happened to them!!

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Played 5
Lost 5
And so to next week
Let me see.......
0-6
Let's move to 12 games..... 0 wins
As I've said we'll win at most 5 and tgats pushing it
LUSTEN YOU DILLUSIONALS WE ARE LEEDS OF 2016

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Quote: silvertail-wolf "
LUSTEN YOU DILLUSIONALS WE ARE LEEDS OF 2016'"

You might want to have another look at your statement.

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Quote: silvertail-wolf "Played 5
Lost 5
And so to next week
Let me see.......
0-6
Let's move to 12 games..... 0 wins
As I've said we'll win at most 5 and tgats pushing it
LUSTEN YOU DILLUSIONALS WE ARE LEEDS OF 2016'"


But leeds won the lot the year before. Then they lost two of their best ever players and leaders. ....
I think I'd have accepted that fall from grace

We won the league leaders shield. ...which is not to be sniffed at but it's not any clubs primary aim. ...

We just lost a chubby trouble causing half back that only played well for the first month of the season. ....

We are so not Leeds. .....

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