The Prime Time Recruitment Stand never caught on....

Was that the season we were sponsored by "Mend a Hose"

Personally don't like this tie up.
Advertising is there to promote the brand and ultimately make profits from consumers.
Yes - people will switch from standard cigarettes and from other 'Truvape' competitors, but can anyone say that others who are non-smokers won't be tempted to 'try' these - especially those more easily influenced. I just hope I'm not standing near a 'smoker' in future.

If "Truvape Stand" catches on I'll eat my hat.

It sounds like a Fijian fullback.

The Buckley Street Popular Side.

Lets be honest, this debate is about 'Vaping', not alcohol or diesel engine emissions. I don't even think the people here who are annoyed by this decision could be classed as ritual moaners. Just some people feel quite strongly about smoking or something that is, in its very action, directly comparable.

We cant bring up alcohol as, as someone has previously stated, I cannot passively drink someone elses beer. However I can passively breath in smoke or vape fumes. There is nothing 'offensive' by people carrying out the action of drinking, however the action of breathing in fumes / vapour is, in many peoples eyes, offensive or unsociable. The act of breathing out cigarette fumes or vapour is also offensive and unsociable.

I don't usually post on here as my history will prove, as i tend to read and laugh at the comments other people make and so, by default, I don't tend to moan about anything. I do, however, believe that this deal is all wrong. The club, IMO, has taken a step backwards and should, as other people have said, asked the opinions of the majority prior to making this decision.

Great post Paullie

We're now actively promoting an addictive substance. Just because we're getting money out of it. You can't go from, e cigarettes being banned in the ground to hey, you can do it all you want now and wants more we'll even sell you branded gear in the club shop.

We may have had alcohol and cigarette companies sponsoring the game in the past, but things have changed. Advertising cigarettes is banned now and e-cigarettes might not be as dangerous but they are still unregulated and there are still debates on how much harm they can do.

Even if it turns out e-cigarettes are relatively harmless, I wouldn't want my kids getting addicted to them and have to fork out £7 a day to fund the habit. What a waste of money it would be for them and would have a detrimental affect on their own families as they get older.

I read the press release on the clubs website and couldn't believe what I was reading. I've never read so much garbage in my life.

Highlights includehelp educate fans about the health impact of smoking, as well as the potential benefits of switching to an alternative like electronic cigarettes.'"

<vapes ecig>

excellent post LABob

Hmm to quote ' we cant go from banning e-cigs to promoting them'

How is this different to reversing the ban on alcohol at wilderspool and installing bars on all the terraces?

E-cigarettes may be safer that a tobacco one (much in the same way that getting hit by a car travelling at 30mph is safer than being hit by one travelling at 50mph), but nicotine is still something that I wouldn't want my children to be exposed to. This article make it very clear it's a potent chemical with obvious negative effects on a person's health

Nature Medicine 2001 Jul;7(7)Nicotine stimulates angiogenesis and promotes tumor growth and atherosclerosis.
(in leyman's terms stimulates the generation of new blood vessels in the heart and also promotes cancerous cells and hard plaques to form in the heart)

Heeschen C, Jang JJ, Weis M, Pathak A, Kaji S, Hu RS, Tsao PS, Johnson FL, Cooke JP.

[iWe provide anatomic and functional evidence that nicotine induces angiogenesis. We also show that nicotine accelerates the growth of tumor and atheroma in association with increased neovascularization. Nicotine increased endothelial-cell growth and tube formation in vitro, and accelerated fibrovascular growth in vivo. In a mouse model of hind-limb ischemia, nicotine increased capillary and collateral growth, and enhanced tissue perfusion. In mouse models of lung cancer and atherosclerosis, we found that nicotine enhanced lesion growth in association with an increase in lesion vascularity. These effects of nicotine were mediated through nicotinic acetylcholine receptors at nicotine concentrations that are pathophysiologically relevant. The endothelial production of nitric oxide, prostacyclin and vascular endothelial growth factor might have a role in these effects.[/i


From a family orientated club selling a family game as entertainment, taking money from a company that sells a product with potentially serious negative effects on health is in my opinion a poorly thought out move. Allowing a stand to be named after the company stinks to high heaven.

Yet you'd probably buy them a happy meal with a smile on your face.

Nope. Twins that are now nearly 8 and never been to a McD , Burgerking or anywhere else like it. Why, when you have no idea who I am, would you try to demean my serious post about not wanting my children to be exposed to a deadly chemical is beyond understanding. Fool.