So what you Wire fans are saying is only trophies won after 2009 actually count??

What a strange lot you really are.

OK then 2008

What are you going on about? It doesn't matter how far back in time you go. We've won more trophies than Saints in the last few years but are getting stick off them for failure. They're thick as, that lot.

Wire and saints, both new stadiums. Our trophy room is full of bling, theirs is full of cobwebs.

Nice to see there isn't any knee jerk reactions after one game, as for trophies, Saints are trophy less since not having KC, long and scully in their team. Still far more successful and bigger than us. I'd put us in a Man City type category and Saints in a Liverpool type.

I'm a HKR fan and I rate us as just as big as a club as you.

And we've been champions a lot more recently than Wire.

Bit rude, I've been alive in the time saints won the league... Not so much for Liverpool

Why would we want to compare our game and our teams with football?

Won't get any bites with tiny bait like that.

1/10 for the effort though.

Well let's have a look at one or two facts here.

Warrington's crowd in the first round of games this season was barely 2000 more than ours.

And you had the advantage of playing a club who is a very near neighbour. Warrington and St Helens are just 10 miles apart I believe.

On the other hand, Leeds is still a fair distance from Hull.

Also, last time HKR's was Champions was nearly 30 years ago. Wire's was nearly 60 years ago.

I'm jealous now. You can also claim to have been relegated and we can't match that - it's just not fair.

Worst still..we are the only team to have had continuous top flight rugby league since 1879.

Incorrect. Try again!!!