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Charnley? Charnley is made to look good by the players around him and don't state our challenge cup game as an example 2 weak tackles and a non existent Blythe tackle were the reason for that. We targeted him and that's were our points came from.

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[quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg



Quote: Horatio Yed "Charnley? Charnley is made to look good by the players around him and don't state our challenge cup game as an example 2 weak tackles and a non existent Blythe tackle were the reason for that. We targeted him and that's were our points came from.'"
I seem to recall him stepping this world class full back who most people on here put in the dream team ahead of Sam

His defence is weak at times yes but he's a better player than them who i listed do you want stats? icon_smile.gif

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Stats? A winger getting lots of tries in a top team shock horror, weak under the high ball and most of the tries against you are on his wing put Josh in a lower side and look how his stats would change instantly.
King didn't even try running round him he ran THROUGH him, imagine Inglis if he saw him in front of him, he wouldn't score purely because he'd be laughing his c*ck off.

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[quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg



Quote: Horatio Yed "Stats? A winger getting lots of tries in a top team shock horror, weak under the high ball and most of the tries against you are on his wing put Josh in a lower side and look how his stats would change instantly.
King didn't even try running round him he ran THROUGH him, imagine Inglis if he saw him in front of him, he wouldn't score purely because he'd be laughing his c*ck off.'"
Inglis would run over Broughton for that matter he'd run over any of our wingers your point is?

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Quote: king warrior "Charnley and Foster are both better than Hall,Broughton and Jones Bishop, tbf the latter is a class player but not ready yet imo'"


You have probably picked 2 of the worse wingers when it comes to defence in SL, the big aussie and kiwi backs would have a field day against them.

Charnley is ok when running the ball in open space at SL level but if he gets anywhere near an international side then it will be time to call it a day, he's not much different to Peter Fox when he burst onto the international scene, i'd see it going the same way.

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we have at the very least 2 better wingers than JC, personally i think we have more than that.
JC is in your side because of the salary cap and the need for a mixture of salaries.

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What is it with certain wiganers and wingers??
Did we not have this not so long ago with Ainscough and look what happened to him..

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[quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg



Quote: Horatio Yed "we have at the very least 2 better wingers than JC, personally i think we have more than that.
JC is in your side because of the salary cap and the need for a mixture of salaries.'"
He has kept Goulding out this season (who was the 2nd top try scorer last season) nothing to do with the cap he's playing better and he's getting picked

England should be more like Wigan if you dont peform you dont get picked simple but we dont have that luxury with certain positions do we same old rubbish give the young blood a shot they cant do any worse

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[quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg



Quote: Rob Wire "You have probably picked 2 of the worse wingers when it comes to defence in SL, the big aussie and kiwi backs would have a field day against them.

Charnley is ok when running the ball in open space at SL level but if he gets anywhere near an international side then it will be time to call it a day, he's not much different to Peter Fox when he burst onto the international scene, i'd see it going the same way.'"
Sorry Rob you said locky wasn't good enough for England your opinion has gone down in my eyes

The guy is in for M.O.S this season and gets through a lot of defensive work his work rate is second to none

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Quote: king warrior "Sorry Rob you said locky wasn't good enough for England your opinion has gone down in my eyes

The guy is in for M.O.S this season and gets through a lot of defensive work his work rate is second to none'"


Easy tiger, i didn't say O'Loughlin wasn't a good SL player. I said in the majority of games at international level he's been poor, certainly nowhere near his level of form for Wigan.

A bit similar to Kevin Sinfield, a very good SL player that has a lot of influence on his side at club level but looks like a fish out of water at international level.

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No way is Charnley good enough for England. At least not yet.

It'll be Briscoe + Hall as the wingers, although Briscoe + BJB would be my preference.

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1 Sam Tomkins
2 Ryan Hall
3 Chris Bridge
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7 Danny Brough

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9 James Roby
10 James Graham (c)
11 Sam Burgess
12 Gareth Ellis
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Quote: inside_man "No way is Charnley good enough for England. And never will be!

It'll be Briscoe + Hall as the wingers, although Briscoe + BJB would be my preference.'"


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[b:33tg3xj5]Me:[/b:33tg3xj5] I'm still reeling from the news that someone is considering watching the 1st and 3rd game on Saturday and NOT watching Warrington play. It's like being in Shea Stadium when the Beatles came to town and deciding to nip out for a fag. [b:33tg3xj5]knockersbumpMKII:[/b:33tg3xj5] Is it FOOK, you're good but you're not THAT good, jesus you wanky fans need to get over yourselves, Beatles at the Shea in '65 was a once in a lifetime opportunity for some (despite the following years performance), you can watch a very good team in primrose & yellow play every week if you really wanted to but comparing it to one of the very best music groups of all time in an iconic stadia such as the shea is overegging your importance, you're not even the best team in SL atm:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50086.jpg



Quote: inside_man "No way is Charnley good enough for England.'"


Thank God for that, thought it was just me.

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I think he's a talented winger, makes lots of metres ball in hand, very dangerous attacking wise. But also has some defensive failings, however he's still pretty young, and doesn't have an experienced centre inside of him which I still feel contributes to a good deal of his "mistakes".

He has the potential, little while longer yet though. Better than Foster already mind!

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