If we're going off stats, then you're wrong, because the metres per carry shows:

Graham - 7.08m per carry
Carvell - 7.54m per carry

HTH

Leftfield

What would James' stats be like if he played for Wire or Hudds? (don't get in to a silly debate about cap etc)

I bet they'd be completely different.

IN YOUR OPINION, WHICH MEANS VERY LITTLE.

all wigan trained! goalpostchangingfantasticum!

wtf does it matter, your glory team of the 80's consisted of many players who were bought for cold hard cash!

i now am getting sick myself of all this bickering(i never thought i'd say that!)

leave us alone will yah for a bit, stay on your own board, cos i'm so bored of inbred ramblings!

Don't know if this has been mentioned in an earlier post because i couldn't be d trawling through all the other pages but statisically Paul Wood is your best prop.

He beats Cravell and Morley in every department.

All I did was say Jeff Lima.....

How about we think of this from another angle.

We know Carvell makes su0per human metres per carry.

But stats are clouding the issue. where we need instead look is, maybe, peer awards.

Graham was a man of steel... a while a go.

How many MOM on Sky have each maan won/ times showed.

How many games have they been on the winning team?

These too are flawed but are just as adaptable as stats.

This will most likely always be personal preference. And Roby isn't as good as Monas.

Yeah - your right jd.

I'd be happy with either Graham or Carvell in our '4'.

Carvell has stepped into the void left by Moz missing out and is really showing how good he is.

Is the irony of Mossop lost on you?

Who cares as for as am concerned gaz is having a excellent run of form. I really don't give a fig about graham or any second rate prop from wigan as long as the wire props do the business

I'm sorry, ladies and gents, but this arguement has really got nothing to say now

We think Carvell's great, Stains think Ginger Testicles is great

They're both briliant (although, Graham is clearly better, BUT, he is a bigger nob than Jeremy Kyle, whilst Carvell is more of a "level headed" player)

Stats, are very over-rated, and are just a tool used by clubs on a Monday morning.You can massage any stat to get to the point YOU want.
I can see with my own 2 eyes, that Graham is clearly the best British prop. Carvell, is a VERY close second.

One thing's for sure though, after Graham, Stains props are..... (insert your insult here).....I mean, Katy Perry...hahaha

.....and I don't know why Worriers fans are even bothering to enter the debate...their props are streets behind ours.....stats or not

We will see in a couple of weeks time. For the moment though, the key stat is that our props have helped us drop fewer points than Wire.

Graham under TS's tutelage? Now that would be a player.