Mother's Day tomorrow, or as it's known in Wigan "Valentines Day".

Just imagine the confusion on fathers day!

It's perfectly illegal for Wigan to tackle. Yes we get it.

Oh and Finch punching? Must have missed that, I did see Cross swinging quite a few times though, most notably at S. Tomkins but no doubt that's all fine and dandy.

It is nice to see Wigan fans proven wrong again. They claim they have such impeccable defense and such flamboyant attack. When in truth they have turnstiles for defense behind the twenty, there attack is clumsy and errors are frequent and they cheat and spit their dummy out when they are not getting what they want.

In the off season they claimed to be the most entertaining rugby. My left bollok, they are.

ive also noticed they like to lie on in the tackle..wonder if the stop watch will come out in boots n all just to highlight this point..

Bet they don't sell many Fathers Days cards in Warrington

This thread is pretty pathetic from both sets of fans. Why is it that a thread like this always turns into pointless arguments.

Why? Will we fail to make the playoffs if we lose?

Now you're getting it !

A tackle around the legs is a tackle, that's OK when the player is running and you catch and gather his legs together to effect the tackle. When a player is standing and you hit the leg below the knee and bend and twist the leg up that is not a tackle that is a dangerous action which could lead to career ending injury. Why can't your players hit above the knee because you can still gather the legs and complete the desired effect - a well controlled and executed tackle.

I do agree that Wigan players do this all the time, Tompkins on Cunningham - last season, Leuluai - last week and Lima last night. By this I can only believe that it is coached!

Open your anti wigan eyes, watch the game and you will see that the first point of impact was actually on the thigh

The tackle was not on the standing leg and the player was still moving.
If the Leeds player had managed to offload the ball in the tackle, everyone would be having a go at Lima for not attempting the tackle.

I've never seen a player offload it with his leg.

Who says I'm anti Wigan? I'm not. I'm anti dangerous play but as we were discussing the incident last night I commented on that. I'm not sure you are correct about the impact, I'm certain he angles down onto the knee and he still lifted and twisted the leg, no other reason for that than to make the other player 'uncomfortable'.

Another point to consider when talking about first point of ccontact; is it not true that when the initial contact is on the chest but the arm finishes in the face of the tackled player, this is penalised because of the end result and not the initial contact?