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Quote: ratticusfinch "I’ll give Powell a full season at least but if widdop and currie are not dropped for next week then we’ve no hope. King should also be dropped. The very least I was hoping from Powell was some Yorkshire grit….let’s see. I’m not hopeful'"


I think you're spot on. I've felt aggrieved since Price was tosh last 2 play offs but got to leave on his terms, wave goodbye and get himself a new job down under.

There seems to be no repercussions for poor performance at this club.

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Quote: Philth "I think you're spot on. I've felt aggrieved since Price was tosh last 2 play offs but got to leave on his terms, wave goodbye and get himself a new job down under.

There seems to be no repercussions for poor performance at this club.'"


The thing is, on reflection we had a relatively decent season last year (puts tin hat on) barring our disasterous exits from the playoffs and CC.
We only lost 5 games and finished 3 points behind Saints and 7 behind Catalans. Now don't get me wrong, it was 100% time for Steve Price to go, however i feel we have gone backwards this year by a considerable leap with a similar playing roster (-C Hill). And i think the general expectation was for us to be an improvement on last year with a new coach coming in. It's still early days but within 3 games we've definately gotten ourselves into a bit of a hole..

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This result did not shock me as Wakey pushed both Saints + Cats close so credit where it’s due but even after 6 games Mr Powell is under pressure as this team looks absolutely terrible and how the hell Cooper can come out with our pack is alright is beyond belief when every pundit has said it’s a very light pack.A very long season ahead

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Quote: Philth "
There seems to be no repercussions for poor performance at this club.'"


Nail on head. We get the team and the performances we allow.

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Maybe the players are not buying into the Powell way of playing, if that's the case you are in serious trouble. Only time will tell!!

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Quote: BornagainLeyther "Maybe the players are not buying into the Powell way of playing, if that's the case you are in serious trouble. Only time will tell!!'"

Think that and also underestimating wakefield, who every game I’ve watched so far have been very competitive apart from the first half against Leeds .This was the first game with both our first choice halfs playing together and they didn’t disappoint .Hopefully another cracking game next weekend ,best of luck ,your going to need it on that showing .

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Problem we have is if we dropped players, who do we have to come in?
The team virtually picks its self every week as we have no depth.
We’re a squad of 50% 2nd rowers and bang average ones at that.

Packs win games.

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We have a reserve team Duckie. Use it. If we go out of the cup - so be it, it’s a long term culture that needs to start right now. No matter what your salary/reputation if you’re not playing well enough then you’re in the reserves.

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There were good things - getting Ashton into space early in the game, the finish by Thewlis, and Walkers well worked try with Philbin. Then there were the bad things - Widdop's launch out of the line, Hughes's late hit that will most likely see him getting sat down two games, our goal line defence and defensive structure.

There's a huge problem with attitude and leadership, with the senior players setting a bad example instead of a good one.

It doesn't matter whether a coach has been at the club for one, six, or a hundred games, they're not going to make any progress until we have the right attitude and leadership on the field. DP needs to resolve these issues, immediately, and it's so plainly obvious that he's made a mistake with the captaincy.

Integrating a new coaching team, and new players into what was left behind by Price, I accept will take time, but the right attitude by the squad should have been there from round one. We need leaders that deserve and command respect, to ensure the attitude of the team on the field of play is on point. A priority that needs sorting, as DP's gauntlet is still on the dressing floor.

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I’ll add line speed and inability to make yards up the middle.

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As has been commented on -

Line Speed - Woeful
Go Forward - Embarrassing
Game Plan (when under pressure) - Non-existent
Recruitment (or lack of it) - Bizarre
Captaincy - Sorely lacking

All in all, the makings of a great season ahead icon_biggrin.gifANCE:

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Quote: MorePlaymakersNeeded "There were good things - getting Ashton into space early in the game, the finish by Thewlis, and Walkers well worked try with Philbin. Then there were the bad things - Widdop's launch out of the line, Hughes's late hit that will most likely see him getting sat down two games, our goal line defence and defensive structure.

There's a huge problem with attitude and leadership, with the senior players setting a bad example instead of a good one.

It doesn't matter whether a coach has been at the club for one, six, or a hundred games, they're not going to make any progress until we have the right attitude and leadership on the field. DP needs to resolve these issues, immediately, and it's so plainly obvious that he's made a mistake with the captaincy.

Integrating a new coaching team, and new players into what was left behind by Price, I accept will take time, but the right attitude by the squad should have been there from round one. We need leaders that deserve and command respect, to ensure the attitude of the team on the field of play is on point. A priority that needs sorting, as DP's gauntlet is still on the dressing floor.'"

I don't see how Hughes being sat down for 2 games can be classed as a bad thing. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Moe syslak "I don't see how Hughes being sat down for 2 games can be classed as a bad thing.
I'd be delighted, but only if it was for longer.

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It was a 50/50 game anyway and we weren't as bad as everyone is crying about. Massive overreactions from a hell of a lot of fans. Next week we will have Mulhern back to strengthen the pack, Daz Clark should be back and potentially Magoulias making a debut. We weren't blown off the park by any means and we are 6 games in so i'm not gonna sit and cry about it. Yeah there are a few players not on form but there is plenty of time for us to hit form and click. It's not panic stations yet.

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Overreaction by Wire fans? Never.

These are the same people who in March 2009 would have been calling for taxis to take King and Monaghan to the airport, who would have wanted Briers shipping out to Barrow and believed that Smith wouldn't be able to turn the attitude around. They'd have called for Gatcliffe to go now that the move to the new ground was completed. Some of the sly ones would have praised the investment by Moran but wondered whether he really knew how to run a rugby club...

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