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| Quote Vespid_Wire="Vespid_Wire"Are we still linked with FFMM? Is he a fierce player?'"
Heard Salford asked about him and Wakefield.
As I'm aware FuiFui is retiring. He'll be 36 in 2015.
Anyway he must be retiring thinking about it logically, he is soon to release a biography.
There was a rumour of a Fijian linked but no name but that was all.
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| I wonder if Les Boyd could manage a 5 minute spell next time we play Wigan?
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| Quote Warrington Wolf="Warrington Wolf"Whilst I hate the Wigan dirty tactics what confuses me is we know they are going to do it to us, so in the true spirit of the game "Let's do it to them". Every time Mickey Cackybumbum get the ball he should be hit hard, high to the body and bang on the knees. Remember, prevention is better than cure.'"
Exactly.
To misquote the good book 'Do unto others before they do unto you' or to quote that epitome of sweetness and light, Joe Price 'You've got to get your retaliation in first.'
We need a temperamental forward. Fifty per cent temper and fifty per cent mental a la Mike Nicholas or Les Boyd. Andy Goodway once told me that he thought Les Boyd was a dirty player and I thought well if that's what you think he must have been doing something right. I just said "Paul Cullen speaks highly of you."
How much would McIlorum put it about with a broken jaw.
I regret having to postulate such tactics but McIlorum is a neanderthal coached by a neanderthal and, as long as they are allowed to get away with it, you have to do the same to them.
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| Quote wireone="wireone"Exactly.
To misquote the good book 'Do unto others before they do unto you' or to quote that epitome of sweetness and light, Joe Price 'You've got to get your retaliation in first.'
We need a temperamental forward. Fifty per cent temper and fifty per cent mental a la Mike Nicholas or Les Boyd. Andy Goodway once told me that he thought Les Boyd was a dirty player and I thought well if that's what you think he must have been doing something right. I just said "Paul Cullen speaks highly of you."
How much would McIlorum put it about with a broken jaw.
I regret having to postulate such tactics but McIlorum is a neanderthal coached by a neanderthal and, as long as they are allowed to get away with it, you have to do the same to them.'"
Haha. The hypocrisy in that last sentence after what preceded it is comedy gold! On a serious note, it does illustrate perfectly how fans revel in their own enforcers but hate it when opposition teams have them. Would you seriously like to take the Morleys, Westwoods, Boyds etc. out of the game? I certainly wouldn't...
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| I agree with Phuzzy. If officiials don't manage s**thouse tactics then the opposition have to take it into their own hands. We're lacking a couple of players who can counter the likes of "Micky Mac" (as Wane likes to call him..embarrassing I know)
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| Hmmm, somehow I think the ideal player to have on board to counter Mikey Mac is Gareth Hock!
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"Hmmm, somehow I think the ideal player to have on board to counter Mikey Mac is Gareth Hock!'"
That's a good call.... We are, at present, very soft and easily bullied, and desperately need an enforcer. The one major problem with Hock is that his reputation is so high-profile that refs would be watching out for him to do some 'enforcing' and any meetings with the RFL disciplinary committee would result in exaggerated punishments.
I'd take Hock, on a 1 year deal, in a heartbeat at present.... With Westwood a waning power with the pressure of carrying the pack, Grix constantly picking up injuries, Waterhouse on his way home and Currie failing to live up to his promise, we are pretty desperate for a back rower with a bit of ability and a bit of mongrel about them.
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"That's a good call.... We are, at present, very soft and easily bullied, and desperately need an enforcer. The one major problem with Hock is that his reputation is so high-profile that refs would be watching out for him to do some 'enforcing' and any meetings with the RFL disciplinary committee would result in exaggerated punishments.
I'd take Hock, on a 1 year deal, in a heartbeat at present.... With Westwood a waning power with the pressure of carrying the pack, Grix constantly picking up injuries, Waterhouse on his way home and Currie failing to live up to his promise, we are pretty desperate for a back rower with a bit of ability and a bit of mongrel about them.'"
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"That's a good call.... We are, at present, very soft and easily bullied, and desperately need an enforcer. The one major problem with Hock is that his reputation is so high-profile that refs would be watching out for him to do some 'enforcing' and any meetings with the RFL disciplinary committee would result in exaggerated punishments.
I'd take Hock, on a 1 year deal, in a heartbeat at present.... With Westwood a waning power with the pressure of carrying the pack, Grix constantly picking up injuries, Waterhouse on his way home and Currie failing to live up to his promise, we are pretty desperate for a back rower with a bit of ability and a bit of mongrel about them.'"
Hock could well be a good signing; they certainly don't come any tougher or more feared! Like you say though he would definitely be a 'marked man' so to speak and any indiscretions would be jumped on. I watched Thursday's game earlier and, despite the vitriol being thrown around, the McIlorum incidents were nothing you don't see in practically every game or rugby league. The 'shoulder charge' was in fact a check tackle that was a little late. Had Laithwaite not been injured I doubt it would have merited so much as a mention. The 'cannonball tackle' was actually a tackle to the back of the legs and perfectly legal. However, to hear some people speak, it was the work of the devil himself and I wouldn't be surprised to see the disciplinary follow the same line as they have in the past with other players whose reputations precede them! lol. You'd get the same with Hock without question. On the other hand, he'd certainly add some aggression and mongrel when he WAS on the field!
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| Bit harsh on Currie, I think he's progressing well however he isn't an enforcer in the mould of Benny or Hock.
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| Hock isn't an enforcer, he's a dirty undisciplined liability who, when actually available for selection, would lose us more games than he won for us, through conceding penalties, going looking for opposition players and sin-binnings.
Despite his reputation as a dirty player, Les Boyd didn't miss many Wires games through suspension. He let the opposition know who was in charge, established the platform, never took a backward step but knew his responsibilites as a leader. He was also a far better player than Hock will ever be.
What we need is for the RFL to crack down on situations that are causing players serious injury. Whether it is technique, tactics or something more sinister, certain clubs, whose proud history deserves better, are getting a deserved reputation for cheap shots and taking players out of the game.
The answer isn't for every team to descend to that level, it is for the RFL to start dishing out some [iserious[/i punishments.
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| Hock certainly quietened up Westwood when he last faced him v Wigan.
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