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| Quote morleys_deckchair="morleys_deckchair"Will he even count as a quota space?
isnt there some weird rule around Samoans... or am i imagining it?'"
If you wan't the technical answer;
Cotonou country passport holders are, as a consequence of the European Court of Justice’s 2003 ‘Kolpak’ ruling, given free movement to work within the European Union (and therefore the UK).
- The Kolpak judgment declared that citizens of countries that have signed agreements with the European Union, have the same right to freedom of work and movement within the EU as EU citizens (subject to any visa restrictions)
- Thus any restrictions placed on their right to work (such as quotas setting maximum numbers of such foreign players in sports teams) are not compatible with EU law.
So if he holds a Samoan passport, he falls under the Cotonou agreement, and hence does not fall under the quota rules. So you are correct. |
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| Quote Winslade's Offload="Winslade's Offload"If you wan't the technical answer;
Cotonou country passport holders are, as a consequence of the European Court of Justice’s 2003 ‘Kolpak’ ruling, given free movement to work within the European Union (and therefore the UK).
- The Kolpak judgment declared that citizens of countries that have signed agreements with the European Union, have the same right to freedom of work and movement within the EU as EU citizens (subject to any visa restrictions)
- Thus any restrictions placed on their right to work (such as quotas setting maximum numbers of such foreign players in sports teams) are not compatible with EU law.
So if he holds a Samoan passport, he falls under the Cotonou agreement, and hence does not fall under the quota rules. So you are correct.'"
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| Quote Winslade's Offload="Winslade's Offload"If you wan't the technical answer;
Cotonou country passport holders are, as a consequence of the European Court of Justice’s 2003 ‘Kolpak’ ruling, given free movement to work within the European Union (and therefore the UK).
- The Kolpak judgment declared that citizens of countries that have signed agreements with the European Union, have the same right to freedom of work and movement within the EU as EU citizens (subject to any visa restrictions)
- Thus any restrictions placed on their right to work (such as quotas setting maximum numbers of such foreign players in sports teams) are not compatible with EU law.
So if he holds a Samoan passport, he falls under the Cotonou agreement, and hence does not fall under the quota rules. So you are correct.'"
you would think the Captain of Samoa has a Samoan passport.
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| Quote morleys_deckchair="morleys_deckchair"you would think the Captain of Samoa has a Samoan passport.
wouldn't you?
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| Quote Winslade's Offload="Winslade's Offload"Probably'"
maybe....
infact... its probably unlikely |
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If he does well over here, he will probably 'discover' that his mother was born in Leigh and that he is eligible to play for GB.
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As he is Non Fed trained he will count as one of our 5 'Overseas' quota players.
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| Quote Alf7="Alf7"As he is Non Fed trained he will count as one of our 5 'Overseas' quota players.'"
I thought this current ruling (Fed and non-fed trained) replaced the previous, which mean't Kolpak could no longer
be used to artificially increase any clubs compliment of non EU players. Whether Asotasi has a Samoan passport or not, doesn't matter. |
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| Quote SEB="SEB"It was reported by a couple of websites down under that NZW had signed a young prop and "it is thought to be" Glenn Riley. There was never any official confirmation.'"
Riley has just moved into the Ben Harrison's old room in a shared house with Ryan Shaw so hopefully he's here for a while yet. |
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| Quote matt king's cat="matt king's cat"I thought this current ruling (Fed and non-fed trained) replaced the previous, which mean't Kolpak could no longer
be used to artificially increase any clubs compliment of non EU players. Whether Asotasi has a Samoan passport or not, doesn't matter.'"
Yes exactly. A good move by the RFL I thought as it gets round the employment law side of things well.
There are some exemptions to the ruling such as any player registered in the UK pre 2008 will count as Fed trained (so off quota) such as Francis Meli, Ali Lauititi etc, and any player involved with the Crusaders when they went belly up are considered Fed trained (so off quota). But as these players near retirement we should start to see the number of 'overseas' players at each club reduce down towards the 5 mark as a maximum. I seem to remember some clubs having 10 players in their squad that were overseas at one stage but didn't count as quota because of the Kolpak ruling. |
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| Quote morleys_deckchair="morleys_deckchair"I'm actually very excited about this signing... The intensity in his game may have dropped off over the last few season.. But a new challenge and a move to a new country could be just what's needed to re-ignite the fire inside.
It wasn't that long ago he was being talked about as one of, if not the best prop in the world and captain of the All Blacks.
Lets be honest, its not like we have signed Ben Cross here.'"
Sorry to be pedantic but the All Blacks are rugby union. He was the captain of the Kiwis.
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| Quote Caveman="Caveman"Sorry to be pedantic but the All Blacks are rugby union. He was the captain of the Kiwis.
(*hides for a while for being annoying*)'"
Apology accepted. |
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