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Quote: Mr Snoodle "
Seriously though, if we're 8 games in and there's still no visible difference to last season then no amount of fresh coaching blood will change things, be it Sam Burgess or Wayne Bennett.
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In this case, we shut down Warrington Wolves Inc. lay everyone off, and finally put the old culture to bed. Then Middleton and Moran swap places again and we reopen as Warrington Wire XL Bullys Inc., recruiting an entire new playing roster, coaching structure and club management. We invite investment from Sicilian Mafia types to ensure the playing staff are 'incentivised' in the severest possible sense to give a return on said investment.

That would be my pitch should I apply for KFP's position when it becomes available.

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Quote: Mr Snoodle "
Seriously though, if we're 8 games in and there's still no visible difference to last season then no amount of fresh coaching blood will change things, be it Sam Burgess or Wayne Bennett.
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Exactly. It will mean we have not be changing the personnel/things we should be changing.

Who/what are the ever presents ?

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Quote: Smiffy27 " Can't sack 'em all & start again as we know that doesn't work. '"


No but we could avoid offering recent contracts of 5 years worth of salary cap to pack members that keep getting bested. Just a thought.

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Can’t read too much in that game due the changes made by both teams.. Leigh looked fit and quick with plenty of back up runners.. Wite looked slow and disinterested.. the young lads who played second half a few of them have to be knocking on for a few games this season..

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Quote: Bobby Digital "the young lads who played second half a few of them have to be knocking on for a few games this season..'"


Taking a leaf straight out of the senior players' book then icon_biggrin.gif

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From what I have heard the pre season game was anything but encouraging for Wire but all will be revealed in the Cats game. Then we can move on from the "it's just a friendly" defence to "time to gel". icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Wires71 "From what I have heard the pre season game was anything but encouraging for Wire but all will be revealed in the Cats game. Then we can move on from the "it's just a friendly" defence to "time to gel".
As long as we don’t get the dreaded “We’ve trained well all week”, or “I know what kind of a team I’ve got here” icon_biggrin.gif

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Talking of "time to gel" I understand Leigh's new half back tore us a new one? Is that correct?

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I have only watched the game today & was pleased with the effort & commitment shown by the young lads, some of whom could be the future for the club.
I think we need more mobility in our attack to create second phase running & overlaps. Ironically, the youngsters seem more gifted in that aspect.

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Quote: ninearches "I have only watched the game today & was pleased with the effort & commitment shown by the young lads, some of whom could be the future for the club.
I think we need more mobility in our attack to create second phase running & overlaps. Ironically, the youngsters seem more gifted in that aspect.'"


It's strange the way that the first team just didn't act on this, as you'd think the mindset and plan would be the same as how Gleeson prepared the academy team against Widnes.

It can't just be attitude can it?

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one thing i did notice, nearly every single hit up, instantaneous turning for the offload, so it seemed, the offloads didn't occur but it was noticeable of the body twisting.

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "one thing i did notice, nearly every single hit up, instantaneous turning for the offload, so it seemed, the offloads didn't occur but it was noticeable of the body twisting.'"


Hopefully with the intention that the offload is an option if it's definitely on. What we don't want is giving away cheap possession, which Burgess has implicitly stated he doesn't want to do. Williams and Walker are always hanging round to take advantage and create though, and I think Burgess has a plan for that.

Would you say the twisting effort reduced the go-forward in the tackle? Maybe we're still perfecting it and that's why we appeared to lose the collision.

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Maybe didnt want to give too much await in pre season and it’s all part of the master plan.*


*CH has just got back from a lovely holiday,is jet lagged and in one of his overly optimistic moods.

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Makes sense with Dufty, Williams, walker etc always waiting for an offload to be looking for it. But yeah i just hope it doesn't end up like Kasiano who ended up forcing an offload every play.

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Quote: easyWire "It's strange the way that the first team just didn't act on this, as you'd think the mindset and plan would be the same as how Gleeson prepared the academy team against Widnes.

It can't just be attitude can it?'"


Perhaps this highlights that a top coach should be in charge of Academy teams ,throughout RL, to ensure Academy products really are the future of the game & the players can hit the ground running when they get to the top flight.

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