Anyway, **** today, it's been and gone. Onwards and upwards to Saturday against Wakefield.

Big changes for Saturday or more of the same?

Without sounding like a broken record, this team is having their talent coached/trained out of them and it's bleeding heartbreaking to witness.

We are godawful in the opposing ten which tells you everything. No idea where the improvement is going to come from. We had a chance as a club to build a dynasty and be ruthless but went down the nicey nicey route. We are a club that will continue to be also rans! saints win grand finals with a team not a third of what we had at our disposal. Smith wants to develop players rather than win trophies...then work with youngsters cos as a fan I want trophies sorry.

It's hard to believe within the space of a few year's we have gone from having the best to worst attack

For me Ratchford, Penny, Westwood, Hill and to a slightly lesser extent Sims are putting in the effort.. The rest are sitting back and waiting for something to happen.. It's awful to watch.. And to think a few slated my last topic Dark Times..!

2011 feels like a distant memory

Did anybody notice who the most accurate ball passer was during the warm up?

Wolfie?

Yes, it was Richie Myler by a country mile.

nope

Has to be Roy Asotasi then. Ok, he may have only passed once, but it was a cracker.

noooo

How about, Rubbish?