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im sure a few of the posters in this thread think the club are injecting heroin directly into their childrens eyeballs.

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Quote: Timmy the Koi "Trust me, only an idiot would start out vaping and then start smoking. '"


and you don't think there is many of them about?


Quote: Timmy the Koi "Im starting to reconsider my position here after flashbacks from the time i inserted a tampon into my penis. Advertising should be banned'"


Just because (you like to think) advertising doesn't work on you, doesn't mean it doesn't affect others.

Quote: Timmy the Koi "I dont see the problem with this, my kids wont even be aware of any new sponsor as they are not interested in who sponsors the club they just like watching the game.'"


You might be right for now, but over a period of time the club and the media will stop using the name South Stand altogether and it will be known as Truvape stand. If you think that someone is going to hear this name over a period of time and not be inquisitive as to what it means then you're in for a shock. There's a reason companies pay large amounts in marketing and advertising and it's not just to get rid of spare money they have.

I don't smoke myself and it doesn't bother me if I'm near someone who does, but I do feel it's a bad association for the club. This just about sums it up.

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I just can't understand where the uproar is coming from. One of our most iconic kits ever had Vladivar across the front, we were sponsored by Greenalls for years, have competed in the John Player Trophy, Silk Cut Challenge Cup, stones Bitter Championship, Tetleys super league and sell alcohol in the ground. And people are up in arms about something that is legal and bringing money into the club. Anyone would think we were renaming the stand "The heroin is great, go try it kids" stand. Completely and utterly over the top response.

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Quote: latchfordbob "and you don't think there is many of them about?


Just because (you like to think) advertising doesn't work on you, doesn't mean it doesn't affect others.

You might be right for now, but over a period of time the club and the media will stop using the name South Stand altogether and it will be known as Truvape stand. If you think that someone is going to hear this name over a period of time and not be inquisitive as to what it means then you're in for a shock. There's a reason companies pay large amounts in marketing and advertising and it's not just to get rid of spare money they have.

I don't smoke myself and it doesn't bother me if I'm near someone who does, but I do feel it's a bad association for the club. This just about sums it up.

rlhttps://thesunshineroom.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/bull-rodeo.jpgrl'"


The Prime Time Recruitment Stand never caught on....

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Quote: Lost in Leeds "Im starting to reconsider my position here after flashbacks from the time i inserted a tampon into my penis. Advertising should be banned'"


Was that the season we were sponsored by "Mend a Hose" icon_ask.gif

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Personally don't like this tie up.
Advertising is there to promote the brand and ultimately make profits from consumers.
Yes - people will switch from standard cigarettes and from other 'Truvape' competitors, but can anyone say that others who are non-smokers won't be tempted to 'try' these - especially those more easily influenced. I just hope I'm not standing near a 'smoker' in future.

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If "Truvape Stand" catches on I'll eat my hat.

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Quote: Vespid_Wire "If "Truvape Stand" catches on I'll eat my hat.'"


It sounds like a Fijian fullback.

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The Buckley Street Popular Side.

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Lets be honest, this debate is about 'Vaping', not alcohol or diesel engine emissions. I don't even think the people here who are annoyed by this decision could be classed as ritual moaners. Just some people feel quite strongly about smoking or something that is, in its very action, directly comparable.

We cant bring up alcohol as, as someone has previously stated, I cannot passively drink someone elses beer. However I can passively breath in smoke or vape fumes. There is nothing 'offensive' by people carrying out the action of drinking, however the action of breathing in fumes / vapour is, in many peoples eyes, offensive or unsociable. The act of breathing out cigarette fumes or vapour is also offensive and unsociable.

I don't usually post on here as my history will prove, as i tend to read and laugh at the comments other people make and so, by default, I don't tend to moan about anything. I do, however, believe that this deal is all wrong. The club, IMO, has taken a step backwards and should, as other people have said, asked the opinions of the majority prior to making this decision.

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Great post Paullie

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Quote: Paullie "Lets be honest, this debate is about 'Vaping', not alcohol or diesel engine emissions. I don't even think the people here who are annoyed by this decision could be classed as ritual moaners. Just some people feel quite strongly about smoking or something that is, in its very action, directly comparable.

We cant bring up alcohol as, as someone has previously stated, I cannot passively drink someone elses beer. However I can passively breath in smoke or vape fumes. There is nothing 'offensive' by people carrying out the action of drinking, however the action of breathing in fumes / vapour is, in many peoples eyes, offensive or unsociable. The act of breathing out cigarette fumes or vapour is also offensive and unsociable.

I don't usually post on here as my history will prove, as i tend to read and laugh at the comments other people make and so, by default, I don't tend to moan about anything. I do, however, believe that this deal is all wrong. The club, IMO, has taken a step backwards and should, as other people have said, asked the opinions of the majority prior to making this decision.'"


We're now actively promoting an addictive substance. Just because we're getting money out of it. You can't go from, e cigarettes being banned in the ground to hey, you can do it all you want now and wants more we'll even sell you branded gear in the club shop.

We may have had alcohol and cigarette companies sponsoring the game in the past, but things have changed. Advertising cigarettes is banned now and e-cigarettes might not be as dangerous but they are still unregulated and there are still debates on how much harm they can do.

Even if it turns out e-cigarettes are relatively harmless, I wouldn't want my kids getting addicted to them and have to fork out £7 a day to fund the habit. What a waste of money it would be for them and would have a detrimental affect on their own families as they get older.

I read the press release on the clubs website and couldn't believe what I was reading. I've never read so much garbage in my life.

Highlights includehelp educate fans about the health impact of smoking, as well as the potential benefits of switching to an alternative like electronic cigarettes.'"


Of course you want to move people over from smoking, that's your business.

Quote: Paullie "In recent years the e-cigarette industry has become more involved in a variety of sports partnerships, including Doncaster Cup horse racing, Burnley, Celtic and Birmingham City football clubs, St Helens rugby league team and motor sports including the British Superbike Championship and British Touring Car teams.'"


All the other sports are joining in. We're right on trend

Quote: Paullie "Wolves’ decision to reverse the vaping ban follows a similar decision by the O2 Arena in 2013, when they teamed up with another e-cigarette brand and reversed their own vaping ban, allowing their guests the ability to vape without having to leave the O2 grounds.'"


Wolves(sic) decision (and O2's) is based on the fact that a company is paying them money for it.

Quote: Paullie "Alex Wilson, Wolves’ commercial manager, said

Really? Your promoting an addictive substance as health and fitness.

Quote: Paullie "“We believe this partnership, with a reputable brand like TRUVAPE, will help our fans enjoy a better match-day experience, and provide those who smoke with an alternative that experts believe has the potential to hugely reduce harm.”'"


Reputable brand? Based on what? I hate the term 'match day experience' I go to the Rugby to watch a Rugby game and socialise. That's it, but if some people enjoy the dancing teenage girls, and the pre match singing girls, and the pop music, then that's up to them.

But how does allowing people to smoke enhance the 'match day experience'?

Quote: Paullie "Lee Bryan, M.D. of TRUVAPE added

Lee Bryan, M.D. of TRUVAPE added: "We are very excited at the prospect of people quitting real smoking and giving us their money instead."

If people want to smoke, fair enough, that's their decision. I've also known a number of people who have quit smoking altogether using e-cigarettes (and those who have failed), so I can see the benefit, but sports organisation shouldn't be promoting their use. I don't buy the getting people away from cigarettes rhetoric either, as if they care who buys their products.

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excellent post LABob

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Hmm to quote ' we cant go from banning e-cigs to promoting them'

How is this different to reversing the ban on alcohol at wilderspool and installing bars on all the terraces?

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