Wasn't it the discounting of tickets that put Bradford on a slippery slope ?

I don't know but if it was it was season tickets. We're essentially talking about discounting for a maximum of 2 games.

Tickets shouldn't be discounted in my opinion, it's meant to be the pinnacle of the season, and what all those cheap games that went beforehand have been leading up to.

I know it's hard for a lot of people financially, but are a lot of RL fans just inherently tight compared to those of other sports? And is there the same passion amongst most supporters compared to say football fans for instance?

I'm not sure about the answers to these questions, would be interested to see what others think.

Personally i see ir as season ticktet holders want it all there way.correct me if im wrong but do you get 13 games for price of 10 plus first challenge cup game free and a load of vouchers for discounts for various things.?? Do season ticket holders see themselves above all others?? As you can guess im not a seadon ticket holder for simple fact i work shifts ive often had to use holidays to go to games.my aim in the orignal posting was not to aim it at anyone in paticular but when we have 8000 sth and we have roughly 5000 fans at the game i rest my case.

The fact is people are not going through the turnstiles to this so called pinnacle of the season. Therefore something needs changing. If you always do what you always did you will always get what you always got.

You sound really bitter about ST holders.

Although the numbers through the turnstiles are significantly down on their league games attendance, how do you know if of that 5000, they are all ST holders, none are ST holders or 50/50? Fact is we don't. It's probably a combination of your walk up fan who attends when they can and ST holders who have chosen to.

It's more a reflection on the playoffs aren't generating the interest on the fans whether they be "die-hards" or one who attends frequently and picks and chooses their games. Don't forget a one week turn around as well for some people may not be ideal and may already have other commitments.

Hence my call to increase ST prices to include the first 2 playoff games. People will still buy ST's, you're not asking fans to splash out at the business end apart from meaningful games and we'll have more or less full stadia. Add to that, the prize pool will be increased through more sales and the playoffs might just generate the atmosphere that these games deserve. Teams who don't make the playoffs or only play one game get a discount at their club shop. Win win situation in my eyes.
Just an example... Saints would have their 10/11K ST holders through the doors, it would be the 1st game our ST holders have to part with cash almost guaranteeing a full house.

The simple fact is that people won't pay for what they don't think is worth their money. The playoffs are too expensive. Not my words but the message from the fans. Either there should be a reduction (this 2 game cobsolidated price) or something extra needs to be offered.

I'm no business graduate, but ithat's my theory... In fact, it's a bit rich calling it a theory; observation.

I don't think the play off games could be added to a season ticket because I think most of the money taken goes to the RFL.

home game your an armchair supporter we have a few in hull as well but your lot took the p'''

One other factor is the timing of matches. In the period I would call my ‘hey day’ of watching Wire, we played on a Sunday afternoon, or even Saturday in my very early days. We did have occasional Friday night away games, but these were not the norm. Going to the match became a habit, I would arrange my life around the Sunday afternoon, and you could plan months in advance knowing when you would be playing as the fixture list was fixed.
These days, although I admit I am probably not as fanatical, and not what people on this site would refer to as hard core, I am still passionate about the club I have loved for years, but playing matches whenever Sky dictate has broken the my habit. I now go when it is convenient, and I’m afraid that does not include Saturday evenings. That is the reason I personally was one of the missing thousands on Saturday, but there again, despite what anybody thinks, it is my choice.

Blaming season ticket holders for not turning up as though they let the side down is madness, especially when it is based on zero facts whatsoever.

Im a season ticket holder yet went to only 8 of 13 games. I tend to miss the big games cos they are played on a Friday night for Sky's benefit and I cant guarantee getting there. I end up going to all the less glamerous ones, the same ones the walk up fan probably aint bothered with.
I went on Saturday.

The playoff format is to blame for the crowds, too many games, all on tele.

well said, the fact that a team that was proberbly going to get beat and still took 2500 to an away game 3 hours away shows how big fc are, a sleeping giant, one of which looks like there on the way up after afew years in the doldrums...
the overall attendance from wire was little short of embarrasing to be fair, for a team who have won the cc this year and are a favourite to win the gf it pains me to see the state of rl at the minute, granted £26 on the door is an utter scandel and one in which the great club of warrington need to address pronto...
big team, yes, big club- no im afraid...until the mentality of certain glory hunters changes, that will always be the case....