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| Anyway I think there is no chance of Powell being sacked. So we may as well leave it alone for now.
Unless of course you like banging on and flogging a dead horse.
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| Coaches and players need to stop talking about fans.
When has anything good come from a public statement talking about fans? Never.
Most businesses understand the relationship between them and their customers. Produce good products/services, customers buy loads of stuff, leave positive reviews. Produce bad stuff and they disappear. In markets where they can't switch away as easily (like water, energy, renting) customers respond to bad service by complaining vocally.
It's just a part of life. When a business CEO has bad sales figures he can't go to his shareholders "well the problem was the customers didn't get behind us".
In sport the fans are not fickle in terms of switching to other teams, but they will stay and vocalise their opinion. And the opinion always follows the quality of what is on offer.
I think some coaches or players think they can control it the other way by saying if the fans get behind us and cheer us on we'll play better. Completely utterly naive and shows no understanding of what sporting crowds are like. The crowd is like an organic body that cannot be asked (however nicely) or commanded to respond in a particular way. It responds to what it sees. It's not as transactional as winning or losing - crowds will respond to heroic efforts. If a team is busting a gut and genuinely doing everything it can to succeed the crowd is always going to get behind them even if they have been poop for weeks.
So as the sporting psychologists like to talk about: "focus on what you can control not what you can't". You can't control the crowd by asking them to behave a certain way. You can control putting a phenomenal effort out there even in the face of defeat, and a crowd will respond positively.
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| I think the difference though in relationship between a company and customers, and that of a club and fans, is that fans are quasi shareholders.
When we buy goods from a shop, we're just buying goods, we aren't buying the goods to support the company. When we buy tickets or merch, we're buying intrinsically to support the club. The Glazers at Utd have used this club fan relationship to their advantage knowing that fans will still buy the merchandise and the tickets no matter how poor the team's performance. I'm lead to believe that Utds off field performance has remained strong for years, despite poor on field struggles.
I agree with a lot of what you say here in measures. I could well be wrong, but I believe the 'call to arms' from Powell and probably moreso from some ex players played its part in some way. I'm not certain, but it didn't do any harm as far as I can see. When Fergie made his departure speech, I'm fairly certain fans took his sentiments on board and really backed Moyes at first, despite overhauling the coaching staff and making some questionable decisions. I think the key thing here is whether the fans respect the person who's making the call to arms.
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| Quote: Gazwire "Re. Micheale. He came on during the shift in momentum towards Toulouse so he was having to mostly defend which isn't his strong point - he was badly positioned (to my eye) on at least one of those tries before halftime. But really agree though that a pack with more than one threat will open things up for him. Bullock looked really good again - most improved player this year along with some young contenders.'"
Defending isn't his strong point is something that should never be said about a rugby league forward. The bloke looks completely unfit which is not acceptable. He was blowing after about 5 minutes.
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| Quote: Moe syslak "Defending isn't his strong point is something that should never be said about a rugby league forward. The bloke looks completely unfit which is not acceptable. He was blowing after about 5 minutes.'"
While I agree he looked well out of sorts last night, couldn't the reason for it being that he is carrying a recent injury, rather than his overall fitness levels being an issue?
It's not like he looked unfit when he was trampling all over the Catalan forwards at Magic?
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| Quote: Smiffy27 "Anyway I think there is no chance of Powell being sacked. So we may as well leave it alone for now.
Unless of course you like banging on and flogging a dead horse.'"
How do you know he won't be sacked now?
And why should anyone not be able to voice their opinion? Thought this was a forum, exchange of views, whether you like them or not as long as some respect is shown.
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| Quote: Wolf Hall "How do you know he won't be sacked now?
And why should anyone not be able to voice their opinion? Thought this was a forum, exchange of views, whether you like them or not as long as some respect is shown.'"
You’re not allowed to express a non-political, non-religious, and non-LGBTQ+ opinions on these boards. (Did I miss anything) This applies to all areas of society. Didn’t you know...?
Expressing a difference in rugby league opinions allows others to abuse you to their hearts content. I’m sure it’s in Parliament legislation somewhere...
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| Quote: Peckerwood "You’re not allowed to express a non-political, non-religious, and non-LGBTQ+ opinions on these boards. (Did I miss anything) This applies to all areas of society. Didn’t you know...?
Expressing a difference in rugby league opinions allows others to abuse you to their hearts content. I’m sure it’s in Parliament legislation somewhere...'"
Well at least you got the words “rugby” and “league” in there.
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| Quote: Wolf Hall "How do you know he won't be sacked now?
And why should anyone not be able to voice their opinion? Thought this was a forum, exchange of views, whether you like them or not as long as some respect is shown.'"
My view is that he won't be sacked.
My view is that you'd be wasting your time banging on about it but I totally respect your opinion.
I reckon it is time to move on.
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| Powell does have board backing.
However, he has been asked to go a little easier on the players as he’s miffed quite a few of them.
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| Quote: Peckerwood "You’re not allowed to express a non-political, non-religious, and non-LGBTQ+ opinions on these boards. (Did I miss anything) This applies to all areas of society. Didn’t you know...?
Expressing a difference in rugby league opinions allows others to abuse you to their hearts content. I’m sure it’s in Parliament legislation somewhere...'"
Tell me about it
It's nice to hear views from the the non Powell out/everything's bad, side tbh - It just balances things out a bit more.
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| Quote: Smiffy27 "My view is that he won't be sacked.
My view is that you'd be wasting your time banging on about it but I totally respect your opinion.
I reckon it is time to move on.'"
Your view, OK..
Thanks for your opinion regarding how I should spend my time, banging on about it as you politely say, but I will give my views as I see fit thanks.
Powell has been a disaster for our club, why people support him is a mystery to me.
But I respect your view. That's OK too.
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| Quote: Peckerwood "You’re not allowed to express a non-political, non-religious, and non-LGBTQ+ opinions on these boards. (Did I miss anything) This applies to all areas of society. Didn’t you know...?
Expressing a difference in rugby league opinions allows others to abuse you to their hearts content. I’m sure it’s in Parliament legislation somewhere...'"
The woke blob are trying to force Daryl Powell out.
They can't handle the fact that a working class northerner might actually be a successful coach despite not having an Australian accent.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "The woke blob are trying to force Daryl Powell out.
They can't handle the fact that a working class northerner might actually be a successful coach despite not having an Australian accent.'"
The accent and town of birth have absolutely nothing to do with anything as well you know? He’s taken us to virtually bottom of the table thus the criticism.
Ridiculous post. Woke. Gammon. Virtue cancelling. Give it a rest.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "The woke blob are trying to force Daryl Powell out.
They can't handle the fact that a working class northerner might actually be a successful coach despite not having an Australian accent.'"
Utter nonsense. Clutching at straws now.
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