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| Quote CW8="CW8" Toby King I thought was really good, great to have him back and he seems to have matured too.'"
King is big, he was involved and at times he was a handful for the Catalan defence. I think his future has to be in the second row though, as he isn't going to create much for his winger.
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| Perhaps the way forward for contact sport is a health warning like fags & booze & let the players get on with the game at their own risk but fully aware of the dangers.
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| Quote just_browny="just_browny"King is big, he was involved and at times he was a handful for the Catalan defence. I think his future has to be in the second row though, as he isn't going to create much for his winger.'"
He didn't create much last night. But wasn't Miski the SL top try scorer last year on the outside of King?
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| Quote ninearches="ninearches"Perhaps the way forward for contact sport is a health warning like fags & booze & let the players get on with the game at their own risk but fully aware of the dangers.'"
It’s a shame that this isn’t actually a sarcastic post, it’s the way of the world right not what common sense can’t be relied on. I would imagine given the recent knowledge of concussion, head impact injuries and longer term effects that these would be built into contracts these days, but still the sport has to show a genuine attempt to combat the cause.
Which I don’t think anyone is complaining about stopping head collisions, it’s the bureaucracy, endless deliberation and the feigning of serious injury that are frustrating for fans. Especially when you see Vaughan get a ban for lifting a player obviously faking an injury, yet the short-term incapacitated miraculously resurrects at the peep of the whistle.
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| Quote Barbed Wire="Barbed Wire"When a team has to have music played to the waiting stadium to plug the gaps while innocuous tackles get reviewed, it’s gone wrong somewhere. There are enough breaks in a game where retrospective action can be taken where an advantage has been allowed to play, should a card be required.'"
This. I saw BBC breakfast the other morning actually bigging up the new season by telling everyone what a great game RL is because it's so fast and has hardly any stoppages, it's end to end etc. Then in the very first round we had some very long stoppages in several games. It's ridiculous. Everything we used to laud the game for is being stripped away. No, I don't want a return to the olden days, it's great we're focusing more on player safety, but as others have said its coming at the cost of quality play. It's no longer about skill but who can con the ref more and who has less players on the pitch. So much tinkering with the rules year on year, and throughout round 1 we saw players milking the new system for all it's worth. All the while the sky snake oil salesmen tell viewers how good the game is getting when actually it's a terrible watch. Also, don't crow about your rule changes if you won't enforce them unilaterally and consistently.
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"We should get the same lawyers as used by boxing and MMA. They seem to allow head contact.
The games leadership have now created a game where '"
Deliberate head contact in boxing and MMA is part of the sport and within the rules . In RL it isn’t . It’s as simple as that
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Quote Brick with eyes="Brick with eyes"Deliberate head contact in boxing and MMA is part of the sport and within the rules . In RL it isn’t . It’s as simple as that'"
There is still "duty of care", so it's not as simple as that.
You can inform yourself here.
https://www.slatergordon.co.uk/newsroom ... ey%20train.
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Quote Brick with eyes="Brick with eyes"Deliberate head contact in boxing and MMA is part of the sport and within the rules . In RL it isn’t . It’s as simple as that'"
There is still "duty of care", so it's not as simple as that.
You can inform yourself here.
https://www.slatergordon.co.uk/newsroom ... ey%20train.
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| I was disappointed that we still don't have a leadership group that can take control of a game. They should have kicked in when the red card was pulled out of the refs back pocket, and got us all on the same page. Instead, we switched off and defended really poorly when Catalan scored their second try.
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| Both Bullock and Max Wood turned out for Widnes today. Wood scored again and offers much more than Dudson and deserves to be in.
Lucas Green played for Crusaders.
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| Quote wirecation="wirecation"He didn't create much last night. But wasn't Miski the SL top try scorer last year on the outside of King?'"
That's a fair challenge. King got 10 try assists last season; not shabby but suspect not the main source of Miski's tries: French, Field and Smith got 73 assists between them.
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https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sp ... tch-srars/
The Wire Guardian report featuring the stats gives clarity on why we struggled. Not for the first time we struggled on power running from the forwards & backs. Their wingers proving a real handful again.
Guardian Comments:
"The Catalans forwards made 60 more metres than their Warrington counterparts from four fewer carries across the whole game - they carried for 661m from 82 carries at an average of just over eight metres each, with 125 of those metres coming from Chris Satae, who was impressive off the bench.
Between them, the Wire big men made 601m from 86 carries, averaging 6.98m per carry.
Perhaps the biggest disparity, though, can be found in kick return metres – Catalans made 69 compared to Wire’s 26, illustrating the struggles the visitors had in keeping the home side penned to their own line.
Perhaps the biggest indicator of that was the game-high 164 metres made by Dragons winger Tom Davies, with his fellow winger Tom Johnstone (111) and centre Arthur Romano (104) also reaching three figures."
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https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sp ... tch-srars/
The Wire Guardian report featuring the stats gives clarity on why we struggled. Not for the first time we struggled on power running from the forwards & backs. Their wingers proving a real handful again.
Guardian Comments:
"The Catalans forwards made 60 more metres than their Warrington counterparts from four fewer carries across the whole game - they carried for 661m from 82 carries at an average of just over eight metres each, with 125 of those metres coming from Chris Satae, who was impressive off the bench.
Between them, the Wire big men made 601m from 86 carries, averaging 6.98m per carry.
Perhaps the biggest disparity, though, can be found in kick return metres – Catalans made 69 compared to Wire’s 26, illustrating the struggles the visitors had in keeping the home side penned to their own line.
Perhaps the biggest indicator of that was the game-high 164 metres made by Dragons winger Tom Davies, with his fellow winger Tom Johnstone (111) and centre Arthur Romano (104) also reaching three figures."
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| King really put himself about and was constantly looking for work, which was really good to see.
I suspect there will be 2, maybe 3 changes next week.
Dudson out and Bullock (possibly wood) in.
Lindop out with Thewlis coming in.
And i don't know if Ratchford was Injured, but he MIGHT come in for Wrench.
Will be interesting to see what we do at Hull with them missing basically their forward pack. If Ese'ese is banned as well they're basically running with Jack Ashworth Jack Brown that's it.
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