This for me is the reason that he has to go. When we signed him we knew that he had a poor track record as Head Coach but the thought process was somewhere along the lines of 'he's learnt from that experience', well he hasn't. If he'd had a proven track record but had, so far, not adapted to the English game then fair enough to give him time but he's got a record of failure, he's in his third season, and no signs of a turnaround.

Forget the Finals we've played and lost , Forget Wembley , Forget the win ratio .

I just haven't enjoyed watching us play (with the exception of the odd game) for a long time.

Agreed Price and his Negative Tactics and just strange Interchange decisions out!

I'm Still Wondering why the hell when we we're in front at wakefield , he took Daryl Clarke and BMM off ?

Yes this, an entertaining style of rugby usually leads to results taking care of themselves. It's just not worth the anguish of watching us anymore. I was angry last night and have been for the last few weeks and said I'm not watching us again until price has gone but I feel the same even now I've calmed down a bit.

Totally Agree , I can usually take some positive out of any game , but last nights was just a shock I wasn't prepared for.
Hendo was known for his attacking Style at Broncos and we have Lee Briers in our set up and our attack looks like it couldn't unlock the pants of a Warrington slapper at 3am outside a kebab house

I just can’t see that in any work or sporting environment that Price has any leadership qualities.

Doesn’t bring direction, totally unconvincing, no passion and commands no respect.

He’s just a bit of a wet fish; but always remember that he didn’t give himself the job. I just can’t imagine Price coming for a job and walking out after the interview and everyone thinking ‘wow, we need to hire him.’

Feeling numb this morning.........last night was the worst I've seen ever!!!.....No attack....No defense....No ideas....No heart.....great team on paper packed full of internationals but play like a park team! Hill and Cooper provide no go forward but just because they play long minutes get picked along with Currie. Widdop/Austin are 2 marquee signings who look like they have been away with Burrell from league for years! Christ we even made Dwyer and Myler look like world beaters! A clearout is required from top to bottom!

I agree , I think we could do with a clean break No more Jobs for the boys culture.

I hate to say this But a Tony Smith Style "Clean Sweep" is Required

First class facilities, directors who never stint to put their hands in their pockets, enough backroom staff to start a small war and brilliant away support for our matches. Then there is the squad comprising 5-6 England internationals plus BMM. Yes there are some deficiencies, but that squad should easily be capable of finishing top 3. Most of the pieces of the jigsaw are surely already in place ?

What is being said in the changing room and those ever so important one to one relationships between coach and players is unfortunately a white space on the map. There is no point in believing what players or the manager say to the camera / press. New players that join a club are apparently living the dream and have had a life-long ambition to play for you, coaches are stunned at poor performances because the squad trained really well beforehand and were up for the match. So we are only really left with the players body language and level of effort in the game to do the talking.

Looking at the game against Toronto I thought it was the worst performance from Wire that I had seen in a long time. There was nowhere near enough effort from some of the players, the team looked disjointed, and the defensive line was very poor. On the few occasions Toronto threatened our line they looked as though they could score. I thought perhaps they were low in confidence, which considering the talent they had available compared to Toronto was perhaps ridiculous, but they were certainly not 'in the zone'. Toronto worked hard, never stopped trying when they were behind and shrugged off the errors that they made. In short they were a model for how we should have been playing. The Leeds game was similar with little response when we went behind. It seemed that the team were almost accepting defeat and just going through the motions.

Regardless of exactly what has gone wrong it's clear that the coach / squad relationship simply isn't working, and this run of poor performances stretches back a long way. I just hope the club acts quickly rather than allowing this situation to continue, otherwise I will be back to playing plastic cup football in the empty spaces of the South stand.

Shane Flanagan is available. If I was Moran I’d be on the phone to him this morning.

That applies to the playing squad too. Price must go, the buck stops with him, but there’s a core group there that helped to end Tony Smith’s tenure and they’re doing the same here with Price. The attitude on them stinks and the lack of desire is a worry.

So who is in the so-called ‘core group’?

Spot on, BiS,
Good old Wire. "Do you want a job, 'cause you can have one. You've been with the club for years, so you'll know everyone blah, blah blah."
The whole nice culture we' ve exuded for decades, bites us on the bum, time after time.
Briers, Westwood, Chambers and countless others given roles. What exactly has Briers done, since retirement. Bar the 3 months of Sandow brilliance, our attacking play has bored the life out of our fans. We rarely score any tries outside the opposition's 20m zone. Just barge over tries, or scoots from Clarke resulting in a pass. Briers isn't a solution. After 7 years, he's a problem. Henderson's 3 season, and nothing has changed. He too, is a problem.

New broom. New support staff. Bye bye Old Boys network.
Time to be ruthless