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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: JWP "Thing is, he's saying it like everyone was wrong, they weren't.

At the time of the criticism, they were 7th, the Catalans game that we all refer to where they behaved poorly, he acknowledged this himself etc, we went to Headingley and tore them a new one, so they deserved whatever criticism came their way, fully.

They've done extremely well from there, but it doesn't make the criticism they copped unjustified.

Anyhow, I like him, he's passionate etc. I thought he embarassed himself more thanking the sponsors, gaylord.'"

Ah personal insults! Very bitter indeed! Infact he didn't say they were wrong! He was saying you or others who doubted leeds inspired the team to turn it around which they did without fail.

Twist his words if you want to hate.

But as he said in the press conference! He who laughs last laughs longest!

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Quote: sgtwilko "I never called for his head once, I've had my doubts if he's the right man for the job, but never have I been so deluded as to think as a fan I know more than people that run the most successful SL club there is.'"


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Quote: sgtwilko "I never called for his head once, I've had my doubts if he's the right man for the job, but never have I been so deluded as to think as a fan I know more than people that run the most successful SL club there is.'"


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Quote: sgtwilko "Ah personal insults! Very bitter indeed! Infact he didn't say they were wrong! He was saying you or others who doubted leeds inspired the team to turn it around which they did without fail.

Twist his words if you want to hate.

But as he said in the press conference! He who laughs last laughs longest!'"


(Just for starters, you are proof that forums should introduce random sense of humour tests.)

Anyhow ...

I have no problem with this being the insipration, but his tone & defiant body language was that of a man who was trying ram the criticism right where it came from, when undeniably the criticism was more than justified from all quarters at the time.

I like many others felt Leeds going into the playoffs from 5th would carry a huge threat and so it proved, perhaps I didn't anticipate this in all honesty, but it's been a special effort. Any RL fan surely can't begrudge Leeds what they've done and the manner in which they've done it, they've been involved in three see-saw encounters in three weeks and triumphed in all. They've scored some fantastic tries in less than ideal conditions and defended like trojans. I was rooting for them last night and they think they merit the title fully.

All this said, when I said they were cack in August, they were cack, sorry Kev.

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Quote: sgtwilko "You are having a laugh! The most honourable player in SL! As always was honest.

Just because he was talking about you!

Bitter much? Sour grapes big time! Very unclassy from you'"

The only thing is, Leeds' biggest doubters were Leeds fans and he commented about how good Leeds' fans were on minute but then said "and to all our doubters..." which was a bit daft.

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: Mark "forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?fclutching at straws there pal! That's me saying I didn't want noble anywhere near our club!

Where dis I say mac out? I didn't

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: danburge82 "The only thing is, Leeds' biggest doubters were Leeds fans and he commented about how good Leeds' fans were on minute but then said "and to all our doubters..." which was a bit daft.'"

Rubbish! Leeds expect high standards. At times the team was poor! Mac was the first to say some of the criticism was valid, the Leeds players unstained that, that's why sini said we were the best fans in the world! He was talking about people outside the club. Are you the same fans who had Matt king flipping the bird at his own fans as you were on his back so much?

That's not how you felt when he left was it?

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Quote: sgtwilko "clutching at straws there pal! That's me saying I didn't want noble anywhere near our club!

Where dis I say mac out? I didn't'"

Come on fella. You can't fool us. By listing five other managers and entering the debate surely you were just one of the many McDermot doubters that Sinfield shoved that win down the troat of last night, even though he said "and to the fans... you're the best in the world"!

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Quote: sgtwilko "Rubbish! Leeds expect high standards. At times the team was poor! Mac was the first to say some of the criticism was valid, the Leeds players unstained that, that's why sini said we were the best fans in the world! He was talking about people outside the club. Are you the same fans who had Matt king flipping the bird at his own fans as you were on his back so much?

That's not how you felt when he left was it?'"

I have never and will never boo or slag off a player. So King certainly didn't do that to me.

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: danburge82 "Come on fella. You can't fool us. By listing five other managers and entering the debate surely you were just one of the many McDermot doubters that Sinfield shoved that win down the troat of last night, even though he said "and to the fans... you're the best in the world"!'"

I was nowhere near that until noble was mentioned! I don't want him anywhere near Leeds! The names were people who could fo a job over noble

But if you want me to say I have posted a few times I wasn't sure mac was the man for the job then yes I happy go say that! I still don't know! But I never once called for his head. But you are shifting the argument here! Check out sini at the press conference post match. The vid is on the rhinos site. He makes it quite clear who he's talking about. It was people Outside the club saying the club was in decline, the older players were too old and the new kids wernt good enough! It wasn't just about mac.

That's who it was for

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Quote: sgtwilko "Rubbish! Leeds expect high standards. At times the team was poor! Mac was the first to say some of the criticism was valid, the Leeds players unstained that, that's why sini said we were the best fans in the world! He was talking about people outside the club. Are you the same fans who had Matt king flipping the bird at his own fans as you were on his back so much?

That's not how you felt when he left was it?'"



Wise after the event, or what.
Some of the abuse (and that's what it was) from Leeds fans earlier this season was disgraceful...some of the website abuse, made the Agar Out campaign on the Hull board seem almost acceptable. Best fans in the world...my bottom

Yes, King did get abuse, though not a huge amount, as it was deserved, due to his lack of effort. Let's not forget the words of Wire legend Mike Gregory in his autobiography, when he said (something along the lines of) Wire fans may not be used to winning much, but they want to see effort being put in. King obviously wasn't doing this, so A FEW abused him, and he flipped.

Leeds are GF winners (well done), we all agree. The system (though we all know how flawed it is) shows it.
The BEST team this season has been us, with the Worriers running us close. Virtually everyone in the game acknowledges this (even Worriers fans). HTH.

As for accusations of sour grapes towards some of our posters from yourself, is quite frankly, laughable. Read their posts again.

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: lefty goldblatt "

Leeds are GF winners (well done), we all agree. The system (though we all know how flawed it is) shows it.
The BEST team this season has been us, with the Worriers running us close. Virtually everyone in the game acknowledges this (even Worriers fans). HTH.

As for accusations of sour grapes towards some of our posters from yourself, is quite frankly, laughable. Read their posts again.'"

You couldnt be more wrong and its truly 100% like this. Ask the bulls, ask the saints, ask Leeds fans. For those of us who have finished top gone to the GF and lost, the hub cap is no consolation and means nowt! Wire didn't make it to wembely or the GF! TS won't be telling his troops don't worry you are the best team really, wire fell a few hurdels short. Not even at the final hurdle. That can't be denied.

Some people are struggling to understand the comp format as they dont like that Leeds won it or wire couldn't get the job done! Funny how clubs fans who have been there and understand arnt complaining.

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Quote: sgtwilko "You couldnt be more wrong and its truly 100% like this. Ask the bulls, ask the saints, ask Leeds fans. For those of us who have finished top gone to the GF and lost, the hub cap is no consolation and means nowt! Wire didn't make it to wembely or the GF! TS won't be telling his troops don't worry you are the best team really, wire fell a few hurdels short. Not even at the final hurdle. That can't be denied.

Some people are struggling to understand the comp format as they dont like that Leeds won it or wire couldn't get the job done! Funny how clubs fans who have been there and understand arnt complaining.'"



It appears from all your posts you are desperately trying to convince yourself that Leeds are Worthy Champions rather than us Wire fans.

well done on your win..... loads of Wire fans have said exactly that, you are worthy champions now go and bore somebody else, and Leave wire fans to reflect on what was an exceptional season... most Leeds fans appear to be decent sorts you appear to be very different....

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Quote: sgtwilko "You couldnt be more wrong and its truly 100% like this. Ask the bulls, ask the saints, ask Leeds fans. For those of us who have finished top gone to the GF and lost, the hub cap is no consolation and means nowt! Wire didn't make it to wembely or the GF! TS won't be telling his troops don't worry you are the best team really, wire fell a few hurdels short. Not even at the final hurdle. That can't be denied.

Some people are struggling to understand the comp format as they dont like that Leeds won it or wire couldn't get the job done! Funny how clubs fans who have been there and understand arnt complaining.'"


Well, whilst I don't think he will be satisfied with the lack of pots getting dusted at the club right now, I think Smith will be more than happy with how the season went, and I don't think he'll be telling the team to do much differently in 2012 other than when we get to the playoffs, we need to learn the lesson from this year in terms of dealing with the pressure better.

The best team doesn't always win the competition, it's my belief that this is the case this year. This shouldn't detract from Leeds who are without question the most deserving winners, just in my opinion not the best team. It could be said that it enhances their achievement to have won the title when they are not the best side.

If somebody beats Barca in the CL this season, they'll be deserving winners of the competition, but Barcelona will still be the best side in Europe for me.

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: the flying biscuit "It appears from all your posts you are desperately trying to convince yourself that Leeds are Worthy Champions rather than us Wire fans.

well done on your win..... loads of Wire fans have said exactly that, you are worthy champions now go and bore somebody else, and Leave wire fans to reflect on what was an exceptional season... most Leeds fans appear to be decent sorts you appear to be very different....'"

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CH 25 Halifax34-6Dewsbury
CH 25 Sheffield12-30Bradford
CH 25 Swinton28-8Featherstone
CH 25 Wakefield60-6Whitehaven
CH 25 Widnes6-12York
NRL 27 Manly20-40Cronulla
NRL 27 Newcastle14-6Dolphins
Sat 7th Sep
SL 25 Warrington16-2St.Helens
SL 25 Salford27-12Catalans
WSL2024 13 Wire W0-98St.HelensW
CH 25 Barrow24-36Toulouse
NRL 27 St.George24-26Canberra
NRL 27 Canterbury6-44NQL Cowboys
NRL 27 Penrith18-12Gold Coast
Fri 6th Sep
SL 25 Castleford12-34Leigh
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 25 619 336 283 40
Hull KR 25 669 311 358 38
Warrington 25 618 319 299 36
Salford 25 492 479 13 30
Leigh 25 548 362 186 29
St.Helens 25 544 366 178 28
 
Leeds 25 514 424 90 28
Catalans 25 439 415 24 26
Huddersfield 25 434 582 -148 18
Castleford 25 411 661 -250 15
Hull FC 25 320 812 -492 6
LondonB 25 309 850 -541 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 23 872 252 620 44
Bradford 23 602 359 243 30
Toulouse 22 624 322 302 29
Widnes 23 499 403 96 27
York 24 609 419 190 26
Featherstone 23 560 452 108 26
 
Sheffield 23 574 466 108 26
Doncaster 23 440 513 -73 21
Halifax 23 457 579 -122 20
Batley 23 364 497 -133 20
Barrow 22 384 634 -250 17
Swinton 23 418 590 -172 16
Whitehaven 23 400 772 -372 16
Dewsbury 24 292 793 -501 2
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