Well it didn't come as a shock did it? Am right in saying most of the Wigan fans and other fans expected him to play against the Aussies and Myler would be dropped both before and after the France game.

You can call it "defending" Smith if you want but my view would still be the same even if Smith weren't our coach that Wigan fans went way OTT on the Tomkins/France subject.

That still isn't evidence that your statement is anything other than something you've made up. In fact you as much as cofirm the fact when you say "..Myler would be dropped both before and after the France game". As you no doubt remember he wasn't dropped
before the France game, so whether we all thought he should have been or not, it's plain Smith wasn't of that mind!

You also say that you wouldn't be defending Smith if he wasn't your coach. I take it then that you congratulated him on his World Cup campaingn? Or did you, like all other fans of the game apart fro certain Leeds fans, unsurprisingly ( ), criticise him? Thought so....


And for your information it wasn't only Wigan fans that were criticising his handling of the decision to drop Sam Tomkins although, not surprisingly, we were the most vociferous. I suggest you actually read the posts on all boards from that time. You might find it illuminating.

did we not go around this circle on several threads a few weeks ago?

What record was that?

They've just said on Sky Sports News that there's less than 2,000 tickets left. Should be a good atmosphere.

I thought I had already 'left it' as having no basis in fact whatsoever. I was merely giving you the opportunity to back up your claim which, it's now obvious, you're unable to do. So my viewpoint remains the same. It's merely something you made up.

“Richie has still got a bit of a head knock but Sam was going to get a chance this week,” he told a press conference at the team’s Manchester hotel.

“It gives us a chance to compare the two and decide which way we go for the final week.

“I’ve got lot of faith in both those young men but it’s Sam’s go this week.”'"

Come on Phuzzy evidence is above. You seem to have gone quiet. You know-nothing Pie-Eating Paul and Rick (in a John and Edward combo way).

phuzzy felt (get it?) the full force of ownership,got his coat and left

Somebody has been watching Russell Howard on BBC3

Also his "needing someone to move this big ship around" quote tends to go against this. Mind you, one was said before the France game, the quote you have linked is from after. Go figure. They do say hindsight is a wonderful thing!

However I do accept that it now comes down to which quotes you believe where indicative of his true game plan, so I'll accept it as evidence for and take back my last post to Wire85.

As for going quiet, I hadn't been back on the boards till now. Not really that difficult to figure out, is it?

Yeah whatever. Great contribution to the debate.

i agree! great contribution, pie boy!