where do you think your problems actuall are? this season its been fairly obvious with us from the undersized pack at the start of the year, to the soft underbelly/not being able to stem the tide when momentum goes against us, and to the chopping and changing and underpeforming recruits powell has brought in.

i can't quite put my finger on whats wrong at hull, both this year and in radfords last couple of seasons. you've took some proper kickings that we've been fortunate to just stay away from.

i can't get my head around it. (though griffin is nowhere good as people make out)

I would class these as kickings.

Wire 4 - 40 Leeds
Calalans 40 - 8 Wire
Wigan 32 - 6 Wire

I think Hull have had some scores of 50+ against them. Ours are bad, theirs are dismal.

yup, we've put a couple on them during prices period in charge, up near 60, all one way traffic

hull 6, saints 60

and
wigan 60 (bevan french scoring 7 tries) hull 0 just this year alone.

Too much player power for me. The 'senior playing group' is still here from the 2018 slump. Taylor, Houghton, Shaul, Griffin. They've all set standards, and pretty poor ones at that.

It's become acceptable that when the going gets tough we just roll over. Or not to bother to turn up for certain games.

When we had a bit of success with the cup wins we had Ellis, Minichiello, Sika Manu, Pritchard and even Pryce setting the tone.

It feels like the lunatics are running the asylum at the minute. Something Smith would sort out fairly quickly.

Hull deserve to be much better than they are with their huge fan base.

Was only 2007 when they had 23,000 in to watch the derby game.

I believe they got 17,000 in last week for a dead rubber Derby at the end of a shocking season. A massive club that must frustrate their fans more than ours does!

and got beat by 16 man kr, only named 3 subs

Strange decision that, surely they must have had an Academy player, who they could have selected.

had to cancel the academy game on friday night as well

Probably our best result of the season, had we won, Hodgson would have stayed and we would have had a similar season to this one (although our recruitment so far has been encouraging).

Quite a lot of problems, one of me is mentality weak, get a couple of scores down and heads go, thus the big blow out scores.

We also look unfit, which is why the conditioner has also gone.

No leaders, which goes to point one, not sure this has been addressed yet.

Terrible pivots (which should improve with us signing 3 new pivots)

I've said this for aaaaages, with the exception of sneyd, maybe pryce your 6's and 7's have been proper rough for many many years

plus this obsession with danny houghton, yes he tackles, but doesn't bring anything else to your team imo.

you should have got rid of him at the end of 2015, (so he wasn't playing in the 2016 challenge cup final)

Kelly was fantastic, but yes I agree, we took it to new levels this year with Reynolds and Gale though.

It was never going to work for Hodgson at Hull, it was always an odd appointment. It's further proof that you need more in coaching than being a clever player. He never seemed the personality to get the culture right either, he doesn't seem the kind of coach who'd maintain the attention of a very unprofessional group of players. Someone like Woolf or Shaun Wane would be ideal for Hull. They'd cut the nonsense out and get them playing to their potential. Tony Smith is an excellent coach, but it's another risky one as the crowd will presumably turn way quicker with him than anyone else because of his KR history. Pearson doesn't seem the type to let him get on with making the changes he needs to either and you get the feeling Hull are stoney broke, far more than they actually let on as well. It's a similar job to Powell's at Warrington, but without the unlimited resources.