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I can understand a few people being annoyed with it being Widnes (not that it bothers me I just see it as another game), but let's put this into perspective we had won 10 in a row before last night.. A few players had off nights without a doubt one of them being Russell who has been pretty good this season so let's not press the panic button.
TS knows the players and knows who needs a rest, we are building towards a C.C semi and the playoffs, and if things go our way in those losing to Widnes on a plastic pitch won't even get a second thought.

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The cynic in me actually likens Tony Smith to that slightly dodgy racehorse trainer, who holds his horse back for a few races, getting him ready for that big race, when he comes home first, taking the hefty prize money and also picking up some gambling winnings at juicy odds.

Last night's display, along with several others over the last few seasons, have stunk to high heaven of a side sent out weakened, under prepared and under motivated.... Now, I'm not suggesting anything untoward, but its occasions like last night that really detract from Super League as a competition and make the argument against the play off system a lot stronger.

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Quote: Barbed Wire "Don't agree one bit that outside backs don't need resting. Centres do a lot of defending and also mate a lot of carries. Joel's meters in the last 3 games are 386, compare that with Chris Hill who has made 324 in the same 3 fixtures.

Whilst I agree, TS doesn't put the same importance on the Widnes games as the fans do, I agree with his policy on keeping players fresh for the back end of the year. The selected 17 had more than enough skill and experience to win the game.'"

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Last night we had 10 players in the 17 that either weren't playing for us last season or weren't in the regular starting 17, so whilst it wasn't the greatest performance, at least it shows how far the squad has come along in a short time.

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Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "The cynic in me actually likens Tony Smith to that slightly dodgy racehorse trainer, who holds his horse back for a few races, getting him ready for that big race, when he comes home first, taking the hefty prize money and also picking up some gambling winnings at juicy odds.'"

penny drops for Dita's Slot Meter

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Quote: rubber duckie "penny drops for Dita's Slot Meter'"


Only problem is, Smith hasn't quite mastered picking up the big prize yet .... icon_cool.gif

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Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Only problem is, Smith hasn't quite mastered picking up the big prize yet .... The big prize is getting to Wembley my friend.

The best card players play with a pooh hand but bluff very well...but also the best card player will play a pooh hand knowing they will lose so the other player may think he will choose to play with a poor hand all the time!!??

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Quote: rubber duckie "The big prize is getting to Wembley my friend.
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No, it isn't - The big prize is the Grand Final. Until we win that, then we will be forever known as under achievers.

We can win as many Challenge Cups has we like, but until we claim a Super League title, then we will always be in the shadow of clubs like Wigan, Leeds and Saints.

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Yes it is.
The SL only scratches the surface of revenue the club can make from the cc.

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I guess we're both right for different reasons.
One stature the other purse.

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Quote: rubber duckie "I guess we're both right for different reasons.
One stature the other purse.'"




When you start playing for money and not for the kudos of being able to call yourself Champions, then you know things have gone wrong... icon_cool.gif

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The challenge cup is fantastic to win, but the grand final is the ultimate prize, so wake up TS and stop resting players.

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Quote: silvertail-wolf "I just don't get Tony Smith
Ratchford out of position! WTF?
Correct me if I'm incorrect but a game like last nights has cost us top spot the last two years for not fielding a stronger side
Why oh why rest a centre/ winger jees the workload is a lot less than any pack player
TS shows a lack of respect for widnes , a terrace full of wire fans and a team selection that could have been stronger
Every year we lose games that on form we should win and this defeat will cost us dear at the back end , a top 4 is going to be difficult with our run in .
The thread moaning about Roy A is a waste of time , there were far more players that under performed last night but no critics for them
Yes he's not what we expected but players like Paul Wood are well past their SL best and played p... poor as well as England , Russell . Ormsby to name a few
I do believe that we will be ready for the play offs but I don't think we will reach any finals this year.'"



Sorry, but it just doesn't happen like that.

What is my next most important game ?: Leeds CC semi
What side do I need ?: My most experienced and in form players
How do I ensure they are available, injury free and relatively fresh?


The Widnes game is not irrelevant, Smith would have chosen a side that he thought capable of getting the points, but with a view to resting the players he needs for Leeds, and avoiding playing those that risked injury on the 'plastic fantastic'. SL is simply a knock out competition, yes it is better to be higher placed, but not essential. Having your best players fresh and available certainly is though.

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Quote: Winslade's Offload "Sorry, but it just doesn't happen like that.

What is my next most important game ?this

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I think a visit to Old Trafford is likened to the ultimate prize because sky have styled it that way .

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