The props are becoming are real problem at the minute, Hill aside.

Carvell looks terrible, really out of form and his decision making is all shot. Paul Wood is NOT a starting prop, I'm not sure what he is anymore but at best he's a rotation prop but because Carvell is so out of nick we're starting Wood. Morley I thought was okay, he might not be what he was but he's better than Carvell & Wood put together at the minute.

Too much passing and fancy crap from props for me, it's not a crime sometimes to just make yards and win the floor.

Blamin Myler for tonight is pathetic. Start a thread on Wood or Carvell!!!

That was horrible.

He was the biggest threat with ball in hand in the first half, he ran Shenton raggid. The second half, we never got the ball in his hands which I thought was odd as he was getting joy.

I've defended him so far. But am beginning to come around to his knockers way of rethinking. I'm not sure what he brings to our game at the moment.

FFS, here we go again. Let's pick on Myler again. Some of you nobs really are pathetic. We had a similar thread last week, AFTER A WIN.

Let's face facts, Myler was playing behind a defeated pack. Peter Sterling, Alan Langer et al would have been in the same boat.

Myler is a quality halfback. He's our future. It's just a pity some of our support NEED TO HAVE A SCAPEGOAT.

Myler = Jon Clarke with a different number on his back.

LAY OFF HIM.

Players to old.
Halfbacks clueless.
Questioning the coach.
Sounds like the Leeds board this time last season.
You will still be there or thereabouts come October and as we showed (leeds) anything can happen

There were far worse players on the pitch.

Wood was by far our worst player, thought he was bad last week but had a shocker tonight. Cant knock woody too much cause he's been a great servant but deffo a rotation prop at best now.

Bad players tonight
Hodgson
Wood
Carvell
M.Monaghan
Blythe

OK to slightly below Average tonight
Morley
Bridge
Atkins
Briers
J.Monaghan
Myler
Waterhouse
Cooper
Grix

Good players tonight
Riley
Hill
Higham

Only 3 players who can hold their heads up for me

agree with Riley, always plays his heart out and Hill looks like he's going to be someone to get excited about.

Myler is one of a number of players who are out of form at the minute, timing is all out and he looks poor.

Bridge, Carvell, Wood, M.Monaghan just for starters are in that same bracket.

Monaghan looks to be really struggling to me, whether it's the lack of pre-season because of the shoulder op' or there's still niggles or what, but there's something wrong with him and he's so vital to us that we're stuck in 3rd gear with the version of him that we've got presently (at best) when he really does drive our 4th/5th gears.

Our forwards were poor, but we lacked leadership all over the field tonight. However, Myler for me isn't showing enough leadership out there, I think some people accept too little from Richie. Those saying even Johns would struggle should go back and look at Johns and see a proper half back, a player with a proper passing and kicking game -- a proper playmaker. I've supported Richie before, but you can't have the most pivotal player lacking in the most pivotal skills. What if Lee doesn't get a new contract this season? What if (God forbid) Lee gets an injury like Solomona? Who do we ask to step up to the plate and lead us around the park? O'Brien? Ratchford? For me, Richie really should be stepping up to the plate as a match winner and a team leader, it seems to me that he's still too reliant on Mona's, Briers and Hodgson to step up to the plate before him.

Riley in defence saved a couple of scores tonite!

Not going to start Bagging Players because of one result,especially against some team that has trotted out at Old Trafford for the past five Seasons...

For 60 minutes we kept up with Saints - it was the first 20 that did us. We need to stop getting off to a slow start.