End of career. Because its a drugs ban he wont be allowed to play RU. This also explains why no side has even tried to sign him since he left Hull. What a waste of a great talent.

Good player who with the right application could have been great. Quite sad really

Quote: Builth Wells Wire ""designed to help Gleeson lose weight" .....nice Too many pies?'" www.ukad.org.uk/news/article/thr ... violations According to that the drug he tested positive for was methylhexaneamine which is what Kolo Toure got banned for at Man City. The drug only got added to the banned list in 2010 and has caught a few footballers out particularly because you can buy slimming supplements from retailers that say "contains no banned substances" but have that in. In Toure's case the offending material was traced to diet pills which he had been using because he was worried about failing City's BMI tests at training. Interesting that the ex Hudds player Ben Cooper who was Hulls conditioner last season is one of the people who has now been banned, which suggests that he was involved in the banned substance Gleeson was taking. Could have been a case of picking up an out of shape Gleeson who had been on the sidelines at Wigan, trying to get him to fighting weight ASAP and one of the substances being used turning out to be banned so all parties have been punished.

Quote: Builth Wells Wire ""designed to help Gleeson lose weight" .....nice Too many pies?'" www.ukad.org.uk/news/article/thr ... violations According to that the drug he tested positive for was methylhexaneamine which is what Kolo Toure got banned for at Man City. The drug only got added to the banned list in 2010 and has caught a few footballers out particularly because you can buy slimming supplements from retailers that say "contains no banned substances" but have that in. In Toure's case the offending material was traced to diet pills which he had been using because he was worried about failing City's BMI tests at training. Interesting that the ex Hudds player Ben Cooper who was Hulls conditioner last season is one of the people who has now been banned, which suggests that he was involved in the banned substance Gleeson was taking. Could have been a case of picking up an out of shape Gleeson who had been on the sidelines at Wigan, trying to get him to fighting weight ASAP and one of the substances being used turning out to be banned so all parties have been punished.

I don't know all of what's gone on but it is sad to see such talent be wasted.

Even though he left Saints under a cloud he was still a world clas centre - I remember watching his performance against Oz just after coming back from the ban and licking my lips in anticipation of what he'd do for us.
And to be fair - he did, but the 'bad influence' aura grew and when TS came in he had very fixed ideas and knew Glees wasn't the type of player he wanted - I guess for attitude as much as anything else, and we got a very good deal out of it.
It all went downhill from there.

Very sad.

Not sure where this leaves him and the rest of his life. He needs to get some help and a reality check.

www.code13rugbyleague.com/2011/1 ... iolations/

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Case summary: www.ukad.org.uk/anti-doping-rule ... ision/5946

Case summary: www.ukad.org.uk/anti-doping-rule ... ision/5946

Where something happens with Gleeson, one Mr Sean Long never seems to be too far away!

So in summary:

Sean Long purchases a supplement;

Sean Long takes the supplement to the Hull head of conditioning to get approval to use and confirmatioin not on banned list;

Ben Cooper (Hull head of conditioning) confirms to Sean Long that there is no problem with teh supplement;

Martin Gleeson struggling with fitness so his mate Sean Long gives him some supplement that has been cleared by their club's head of conditioning;

Gleeson tests positive;

Cooper, Gleeson and James Rule (Hull's Chief Executive) come up with some story to keep Long out of the picture and claim it was Gleeson who approached Cooper for clearance of the product.

Truth comes out and all three are in big trouble.


I have to feel sorry for Gleeson in this instance. As with the betting scandal him and Long are naive in the extreme and appear not to have a brain-cell between them. Weren't they both at Saints when Cunningham had similar trouble and seen how he dealt with it and escaped a ban.

The role of the two Hull club's employees suggests a club being run by idiots and amateurs. I hope for Hull's sake the new owners have a brain.

Cunningham was not banned because the guy who gave him the banned substance was a total rogue. He wasn't even qualified (but he had claimed to be) and it was the RFL who had recommended him to Saints. I can't remember the guy's name but he was duly fired. Cunningham was completely cleared of any wrongdoing; he didn't 'escape a ban'.

Long and Gleeson together are always trouble. I was really surprised when Hull signed them both at the same time. That was never going to end happily!

Quote: SaintsFan "Cunningham was not banned because the guy who gave him the banned substance was a total rogue. He wasn't even qualified (but he had claimed to be) and it was the RFL who had recommended him to Saints. I can't remember the guy's name but he was duly fired. Cunningham was completely cleared of any wrongdoing; he didn't 'escape a ban'. Long and Gleeson together are always trouble. I was really surprised when Hull signed them both at the same time. That was never going to end happily!'" m.guardian.co.uk/sport/2003/jul/ ... pe=article

Quote: SaintsFan "Cunningham was not banned because the guy who gave him the banned substance was a total rogue. He wasn't even qualified (but he had claimed to be) and it was the RFL who had recommended him to Saints. I can't remember the guy's name but he was duly fired. Cunningham was completely cleared of any wrongdoing; he didn't 'escape a ban'. Long and Gleeson together are always trouble. I was really surprised when Hull signed them both at the same time. That was never going to end happily!'" m.guardian.co.uk/sport/2003/jul/ ... pe=article

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It was Mike Sutherland, he was a fireman.

I'm sure there was something about it in Scully's book, that he had Millward under his spell and had told everyone how he had all this background working with top athletes from different sports, he used to say he was unavailable because he was working with Olympic athletes but he was working his shifts at the fire station

Stan the kitman rumbled him when they went to pre season camp in Lanzarote or something and he didn't know where the toilets were, when this was a place he was supposed to have been loads of times with the elite athletes he worked with, and then they found out he was a charlatan taking them all for a ride.

Can't believe this thread reached it's second page without Richie Mathers being mentioned.

Dare I say it but (as much as I don't like him) I think he's been hard done by here, he should have been able to trust the advice of the club's coaching staff. As has been stated on VT, I would hope that 'State of Mind' will keep an eye on him.

? why what's happened?

Slim, I was thinking the same thing. What has Ritchie Mathers got to do with it?