I don't think it's disappointment over losing which is making people so angry. There is no shame in losing, even to lesser teams than Saints or Catalan, as long as you play well, play hard and are simply beaten by a team that played better onay. However with these last two games I think it's the manner of the defeat that has people so furious and the apparant lack of effort and pride that the team are displaying.

spot on

From a match winning position early in the second half we went on to lose the rest of the match at Saints 26-0. Similar position at home to Catalan and we go on to lose the rest of the match 34-2.

During a total of about 50-55 minutes of play over both games we have lost the remainder of the games, on aggregate, by 60 points to 2.

An absolute and completely unacceptable disgrace by anyones standards. Heads should start to roll (and I don't mean another sacrificial lamb like Penny).

But I'm sure the board, who obviously know what they're doing, will bury their heads in the sand in the hope that things might get better (whilst pointing out just how great things are off the field). When they finally realise changes have to be made it will be too late for this season, and they will then panic into giving Nigel Wright the job and guess what - this time next year we'll be having the same 'over reaction'!

When can we say he has obviously worked them too hard in pre season?

The players are definatley of that oppinion.

Thanks for your constructive reply.

It is a fact that most of the tries you have conceded have come on the back of penalties you have conceded.

You've got some good players there, three of them have won trophies with Saints, they have not become bad players overnight.

Some of your forwards are penalty machines and they are killing the good work the others are doing.

If you would rather wring your hands in angst than actually watch what happens on the field its upto you.

Just think it could be worse you could be a Wigan fan, now they have got problems.

must admit, i did think that when i was reading some of the wigan takers on here today, we've lost to the best team in sl history, and one of the best teams in the league last year.

Wigan have lost to the best two teams near Jonh's house in the wakefield borough.

and hull

We will lose to one of those teams next week.

Great post, wire fans have no need to worry, they will come good.

It doesn't matter. For forty minutes last night, Les Dragons were a complete rabble. In the second forty, they weren't much more than decent, but that was enough to see us completely capitulate.

Stop talking sense will you, this is the Warrington board where over reaction and targeting certain players for endless criticism is the norm. Please stick to your own board.

Correct. In fact towards the end of the first half, before they scored, they looked like they'd given up. Catalans were battered last week by Hudds - there's nothing like a game against Warrington to boost confidence.

It's the manor of the defeats that people are reacting too, total capitulation when the other team gets a bit of momentum and the fact that we haven't won a game since Leeds at home on August 2nd.

Absolutely correct - after 35 minutes they were gone (we had played well too) but we managed to piggy back them up the field from being on their line with a couple of minutes to go till half time.

I just couldn't believe how stupid our players must be - Westwood idiocy cost us the first try. Someone else cost us the one just before half time.

Second half we just gave away penalty after penalty after penalty and when we did get field position we dropped it, normally on the first or second tackle.

As someone else said it's not about being beaten, it's the manner of the defeat - completely shambolic and unacceptable no matter who the opposition are - and let's remember Catalans were missing key players and were using a centre at hooker for the first time!

August.

edited.

I knew when we kicked for goal to make it 20-18 we would lose, how right was I?

I also predicted when Saints scored their first try, we would lose. Again I was right.

We are that predictable it's unbelivable!