Dudson & Kasiano are both younger than Hill & Cooper.

Some crap being chatted about Hill these days.

Yes he wasn't the perfect captain and had tendency to lose composure and get distracted, but the idea that he was in comfort zone or not committed is total bull. If anything his problems were he was getting frustrated like us fans at all these false dawns and so kept losing his rag on the field.

Maybe he needed a fresh start for his own good, but he was an all time great Wire prop and it was a sad day when he left.

I agree with that but I do think he was symptomatic of our lack of winning culture and elite mentality. In that respect, there's more than one way to be a 'bad egg'.

That said, he was a great player for us and should be remembered as such. Just never captain material.

Quote: sally cinnamon "Some crap being chatted about Hill these days. Yes he wasn't the perfect captain and had tendency to lose composure and get distracted, but the idea that he was in comfort zone or not committed is total bull. If anything his problems were he was getting frustrated like us fans at all these false dawns and so kept losing his rag on the field. Maybe he needed a fresh start for his own good, but he was an all time great Wire prop and it was a sad day when he left.'" Interesting as Chris Hill has just said Quote: sally cinnamon " “I wasn’t enjoying it as much so I thought it was time I moved on and took myself out of my comfort zone'" He was also offered a contract, so we can scotch that myth. Quote: sally cinnamon " It was something of a shock when he turned down the offer of a new contract at the end of last season, opting instead to join Ian Watson’s revolution at the John Smith’s Stadium'" https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sp ... departure/ I suspect he went to Huddersfield as they offered a more lucrative contract. The fact he was "comfortable" with 4 losing Grand Final medals shows his mentality.

Quote: sally cinnamon "Some crap being chatted about Hill these days. Yes he wasn't the perfect captain and had tendency to lose composure and get distracted, but the idea that he was in comfort zone or not committed is total bull. If anything his problems were he was getting frustrated like us fans at all these false dawns and so kept losing his rag on the field. Maybe he needed a fresh start for his own good, but he was an all time great Wire prop and it was a sad day when he left.'" Interesting as Chris Hill has just said Quote: sally cinnamon " “I wasn’t enjoying it as much so I thought it was time I moved on and took myself out of my comfort zone'" He was also offered a contract, so we can scotch that myth. Quote: sally cinnamon " It was something of a shock when he turned down the offer of a new contract at the end of last season, opting instead to join Ian Watson’s revolution at the John Smith’s Stadium'" https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sp ... departure/ I suspect he went to Huddersfield as they offered a more lucrative contract. The fact he was "comfortable" with 4 losing Grand Final medals shows his mentality.

Perhaps a player can also reach a stage of frustration at pulling his tripe out for a cause but some of his team mates are on a different page.

Wasn't it the case that we offered him a 1 year deal and Hudds offered him a 2 year deal?
I suppose there's more to his move than that and overall I think he's probably done the right think from both a playing and financial perspective.
Sad he went though.

Hill was a fantastic player for us and looks like the move has reinvigorated him. Every time I see a picture of him I look for Gromit though.

Hilly was a top player for us..how anyone can slag him off is beyond me..

If that was aimed at me, I am not slagging him off. He was a good servant to the club and a very good forward. By his own admission he went stale into a comfort zone. I would have thought he would have been itching to win a GF winners medal with us but obviously that was not the case. That was the comment on the (winning) mentality.

Not just Hill
The entire front row been in a comfort zone for a good few years now, poor value for money and poor effectiveness
Two down, one to go
Not took Powell long to spot it