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Quote: Fresh Prince of Chesh-air "Does anyone else think that this headline and story wouldn't be a surprise in July...(ala Tevez and Man City....

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Gareth Hock has made a sensational return to Wigan Warriors today after a hit and miss loan spell at Widnes. Hock, who has played only 10 times for the Vikings this season, is ready to return to the DW Stadium after being shown the exit door only eight months a go. Wigan Chairman Ian Lenegan publicly slammed Hock after the second rower was accused of turning his back on the Cherry & Whites by refusing to go to training sessions or rehab after a shoulder injury. Lenegan said "A lot of water has passed under the bridge since then and we want quality players at this club. Gareth will strengthen our bid for a league and cup double". Wigan, who play Hull FC in this weekends challenge cup semi final can call upon the service of Hock as he sat out Widnes' 4th round 78-0 thrashing by Swinton Lions meaning he isn't cup tied and is eligible to be selected. Hock will also look to help the Warriors, who are currently 5th in Super League, to a strong finish and a Grand Final push.'"

Can't see Widnes keeping Swinton to a score that low.

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Why feed the OAP troll ?

Hopefully the silly old fool will go strangely missing from this board when his team struggle this year.

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Even if Hock was superior, he doesn't play for Wigan anymore

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Quote: morleys_deckchair "someone said hock is a penalty machine, then YOU compared him to westwood and boasted about how he 'made three hundred metres more with the ball'.

I was then correcting you and showing Westwoods superiority with ball (and in defence)

But, if it makes you happy....

Westwood penalty's - 22

I am an appreciator of statistical analysis as anyone, but I think you may be misguided in this assistance.

Whilst penalties per game can be a reference point, I would argue penalties based on an average of tackles made would be a more accurate ratio.

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Quote: Horatio Yed "Even if Hock was superior, he doesn't play for Wigan anymore'"

...........and isn't likely to play for them again.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Now add the penalties, which is how this discussion began.'"


Quote: Rogues Gallery "

Westwood penalty's - 22

I'm a massive fan of stats, they allow the unintelligent to talk about the game of Rugby league as if they understand it... .......like the time Gareth Hock received a penalty for a punch on Ben Harrison.............one game one penalty in the world according to Rogues thats slightly better than Benny Westwood....

to normal people that watch the game with eyes and common sense and understanding Hock then got banned 5 matches for eye gouging.....that's not on a stat anywhere is it..........is it............ a050.gif c015.gif c015.gif c015.gif

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Quote: getdownmonkeyman "I am an appreciator of statistical analysis as anyone, but I think you may be misguided in this assistance.

Whilst penalties per game can be a reference point, I would argue penalties based on an average of tackles made would be a more accurate ratio.'"


of course,you are quite correct, it wasn't very fair of me to base it on games.

so again, just for rogues, here is the error to tackle ratios of the 2 non wigan players

Westwood - Tackles 481, penalties 22 = a penalty every 21.9 tackles

Hock - Tackles 427, penalties 24 = a penalty every 17.8 tackles.

So..... i think the conclusion we can draw from this is that Chris Bridge should have been sent off against Huddersfield.

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wigan fans dick measuring before a ball has been kicked, impressive.

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Twist the facts as much as you like, Hock went through two whole years without conceding a single penalty or missing a single tackle.

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And dont forget before that 2 year spell he was the best line snort I mean breaker in shuper league!

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Friday 16th August. Just finished work, first train to Warrington. Going to be bouncing. We probably won't win but I don't think this year will be as easy as last year for you against us.

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Quote: Viva La Vikings!! "Friday 16th August. Just finished work, first train to Warrington. Going to be bouncing. We probably won't win but I don't think this year will be as easy as last year for you against us.'"

Why's that?

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Quote: Teessidewire "Why's that?'"


Because they've signed Hock and Brown icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Teessidewire "Why's that?'"


Just won't

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Are you sure you can better an aggregate score of 166-30?

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