So if (for example) a player wraps his leg around a post in the process of scoring a try and tears his PCL that's because he's immature and not professional enough to manage said injury and play through it?

No it means its the rugby Gods getting their own back because he was doing the dirty on his wife behind her back. At least that's what Phil Clarke would probably have us believe.

So maybe at last the myth that we were 'unlucky' with injuries under Paul Cullen is being broken.

Cullen was signing players like Bridge and Morley who had bad injury records, so no wonder they got injured! At least since he's gone we have targeted guys like Carvell, Mathers and Solomona who have proven themselves to be durable and unlikely to suffer injuries.

... um, it was Talau ...


We haven't had pace on the fringes since 2006 so I don't know which Saints team it is that you've been watching!


Sean Long hasn't been missed at all this year. However, we lost the second of our halfbacks at the CC semi so since then we have played without our halfbacks. I wonder how far Warrington would have got without their halfbacks? We still made it to the GF. But Pryce has been in superb form and has led the team around the park very well. Eastmond is still learning his trade. We also have another very good halfback in Jonny Lomax. The one thing that is missing from our halfbacks is a kicking game. It exists, but when Matty Smith played for us against you in the playoffs, most Saints fans realised what we had been missing for years, even when Longy was still around. But that's the only thing that is missing from our side.


He was never supposed to be.


Nah. It just says we had a coach who didn't know what to do with the players he had, or indeed any players. I mean, what chump would line up a player of 20 years old who hadn't played for three weeks in a position he had never played next to Meli in the Grand Final? Our former coach, obviously.

We are a different team and we don't have the likes of Sculthorpe and Longy in his pomp anymore but then no-one else does either. That doesn't mean to say we don't have talented players at Saints or that we are on the slide. The Board had to start revitalising the team as it was growing older. Next season we will have one of if not the youngest squad in Superleague. You and Wigan and Leeds will all have to bite the same bullet at some point.

What is the big deal with players over 30 being a problem? Look at Menzies he joined Bradford at the age of 35 and has played 57 times in 2 years. Do you think that is down to luck?

He is a freak, most players bodies are shot by their mid 30's

what people are forgetting is Age and fatigue and minor injuries are not as much a factor in a winning team and a good camp.Briers is now feeling that good about his game he fancies a crack with a shocking Wales squad.when we lost old man Carvel,l young challenge cup winner Mike Cooper slotted in with no fuss ....there is absolutely no problem,

I last spoke to Andy coley over 12 months ago when Nobby was coach of Wigan he had just finished training and he was knackered and saying thats it when his contract is up he's finished it was just getting too hard....Interesting then that maguires come in and changed things he's signed a new deal at the ripe old age of 32.

No, but I'm sure you remember us winning pretty much everything else this year.

Its a win win situation because if all of our old crocks get injured then we will just play 18 and 19 year olds from the Academy.

Then we will have the youngest first team in the league and that could give us a crucial advantage over Saints and Wigan.

Warrington 1 Wigan 1

Floodlit 9's

Deal! We'll take it!

I was referring to the LLS, GF and all the individual awards.

The only thing we didn't win was the CC.