Yes but with some peoples praise he's still getting snide comments chucked at him

Oh you will be but on the other side as the comments you make now

Well there's no denying he's a sh*thouse, even Wigan fans acknowledge that (same as Briers can be), no doubting his rugby talent though.

Yeah he can be at times all the best half backs are but he's cut it out loads over the last 2-3 months and his game as got better lets hope he plays the same against the aussies and kiwis like he's been over the last month cause we could have a good shot if he's used right

You mean if we give him the ball with big overlaps numerous times a game like Wigan manage in SL.... or run through big slow disorganised forwards....

England could have Wayne Benett as coach, it wouldn't mean Tomkins could throw a dummy, step off his left, and walk through the Aussie defence like he does so easily in SL.

Right Ron do you really think all coaches are that dumb over here?

Do you not think they watch games and spot things that go on and try and stop it?

He's so unpredictable sometimes his own team mates doesn't know what he's doing

It doesn't matter what his going to do, he isn't that fast, and he isn't that strong, so the Aussies just keep a disciplined line and then smash him, they deal with him very easily.

The difference is, there is a lot of broken play in SL, there isn't that freedom at International level, to excel at that level you need more in your nal than just a good change of direction.

Ron, go on youtube

[iShaun Johnson try vs Broncos [/i

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Very similar style to Tomkins

Yeah these Aussies defences can't cope

Raynor isn't slow and he couldn't catch Sam

Ron it's a team game did you not see my post saying 'if he's used right' other players need to make them gaps for him to go at he's scored 31 tries this season around 6-8 of them are from broken play (might be less) that is because he's used very well and the likes of Finch and Deacon draw players in and make space for him to go at

This is his first full season at fullback and he's having a blinder plus he's 22 over the next couple of years he's just going to get better it's quite scary

No doubt though if he played for us he'd be excellent, quick, strong and best in the league?

No I just don't rate him that highly... I can quite happily say I think Hoffman, Finch and Lima have been the best signings in SL this season, and are all arguably the best players in their respective positions in the league.

I think Hoffman and Finch are an awesome combination, especially Finch flat ball to him at the line...

and on half a million a year obviously........

What! is that all, why make him one of our lower paid players, i hear he's quite good, surely we can offer him more than that?

It's bollox alright, Tomkins>Myler at fullback.