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| Quote: rubber duckie "Just once. 2021'"
You’ve not answered my question. At least back your silly statements up.
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| Quote: Lord Tony Smith "You’ve not answered my question. At least back your silly statements up.'"
Makes sense to me LTS
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| Quote: rubber duckie "You’ve wrote me of more than once before SAM.'"
Like reading your comments RD but our squad isn't as good as you say it is...hope your right can't see it for several reasons one being the 2 at Hb they don't create enough our pack is to pedestrian and our backs only score if the ball comes off a kick..this ain't how to win a trophy at land the gf trophy
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| I suppose it could be worse, imagine if Pricey changed his mind about going home and signed a two year extension?
I don't see what the club has to lose by dispensing with him now. Keep him and the players keep on non-performing/sulk over the game plans they're given or fire him and give Henderson/Briers a full seasons crack at turning things around. Leave it seven games or more and it'll be too late to salvage anything.
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| Quote: Matt King's kitten "I suppose it could be worse, imagine if Pricey changed his mind about going home and signed a two year extension?
I don't see what the club has to lose by dispensing with him now. Keep him and the players keep on non-performing/sulk over the game plans they're given or fire him and give Henderson/Briers a full seasons crack at turning things around. Leave it seven games or more and it'll be too late to salvage anything.'"
Not going to happen unfortunately Price and Karl are best mates.
I wouldn't be wanting Henderson or Briers to take over either, surely they're part of the problem?
Give it Paul Anderson for the season.
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| I wouldn’t be averse to Henderson having a go. We can only speculate as to how much say he has had under Price whereas we know he did a decent job at London. He knows the squad, he doesn’t need to bed in, I just can’t see Price being told to go 1 game into the season.
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| Unfortunately. This isnt just at steve prices level. This is fundamental from top to bottom. Ever since we lost gatliffe.
I have a view and i think it may work.
1st off. Make a call and beg and plead for mr warrington himself paul cullen to come back to the club. I know it wasnt the best of exits. But time is a great healer and he has dug us out of problems in the past. Atleast we can see it now and not 12 games into the season where we could be in a worst position. And with relegation back on the table this year. We probably need 16 points to guarantee safety.
Call time on the services of steve price and install paul cullen at interim coach for the rest of this season.
Get rid of karl Fitzpatrick. He has blown alot of hot air as ceo and quiet frankly. He is just as useless as the previous one. Who was it. Middleton.
Kick broomhead out of his position. He is surplus to requirements. What does he actually do apart from standing in front of the north stand each week why he gets his picture taken while talking politics. I dont care anymore. Your not needed.
Bring in a world class coach. Although let's be honnest. It's looking more and more likely that it's going to be darryl Powell if Barrie McDermott is to be believed on sky.
Next season. Move paul cullen upstairs and give him the position of ceo. I think he will do a fantastic job and will represent the club well as a ceo.
Allow the next coach to give cullen a list. And let's get the players who will actually do a job for us. In for next season.
As soon as cullen comes in. Place EVERYONE on notice that they are playing for there jobs.
If needs be. Get rid of them. Bring in new players. And so that we ain't going over salary cap. Make them sit at home for the remainder of there contact and delisting them so they ain't on the salary cap rules. Do anything that will turn us around.
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| Quote: wire2004 "Unfortunately. This isnt just at steve prices level. This is fundamental from top to bottom. Ever since we lost gatliffe.
I have a view and i think it may work.
1st off. Make a call and beg and plead for mr warrington himself paul cullen to come back to the club. I know it wasnt the best of exits. But time is a great healer and he has dug us out of problems in the past. Atleast we can see it now and not 12 games into the season where we could be in a worst position. And with relegation back on the table this year. We probably need 16 points to guarantee safety.
Call time on the services of steve price and install paul cullen at interim coach for the rest of this season.
Get rid of karl Fitzpatrick. He has blown alot of hot air as ceo and quiet frankly. He is just as useless as the previous one. Who was it. Middleton.
Kick broomhead out of his position. He is surplus to requirements. What does he actually do apart from standing in front of the north stand each week why he gets his picture taken while talking politics. I dont care anymore. Your not needed.
Bring in a world class coach. Although let's be honnest. It's looking more and more likely that it's going to be darryl Powell if Barrie McDermott is to be believed on sky.
Next season. Move paul cullen upstairs and give him the position of ceo. I think he will do a fantastic job and will represent the club well as a ceo.
Allow the next coach to give cullen a list. And let's get the players who will actually do a job for us. In for next season.
As soon as cullen comes in. Place EVERYONE on notice that they are playing for there jobs.
If needs be. Get rid of them. Bring in new players. And so that we ain't going over salary cap. Make them sit at home for the remainder of there contact and delisting them so they ain't on the salary cap rules. Do anything that will turn us around.'"
There are a number of reasons why this won’t happen but the most obvious is the idea that you can put players who are on contract “on notice” .
Ignoring the salary cap issue (and it’s not as straightforward as you say) the idea that a rugby league club can pay 2 first team squads at the same time is pure fantasy.
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| Quote: Captain Hook "There are a number of reasons why this won’t happen but the most obvious is the idea that you can put players who are on contract “on notice” .
Ignoring the salary cap issue (and it’s not as straightforward as you say) the idea that a rugby league club can pay 2 first team squads at the same time is pure fantasy.'"
But apart from that.....
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| Quote: Uncle Rico "But apart from that.....'"
To be fair he makes a few valid points.
The problems run far deeper than the coach. A few ex players have tweeted the same thing. Theres too many pals at the top of the club, it’s run like a jolly boys outing. Fitzpatrick, Middleton and Lomax they have no idea how to run a rugby club. These fellas are fans playing boardroom rugby. Fitzpatrick was carrying the water a few years ago.
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| Quote: Lord Tony Smith "To be fair he makes a few valid points.
The problems run far deeper than the coach. A few ex players have tweeted the same thing. Theres too many pals at the top of the club, it’s run like a jolly boys outing. Fitzpatrick, Middleton and Lomax they have no idea how to run a rugby club. These fellas are fans playing boardroom rugby. Fitzpatrick was carrying the water a few years ago.'"
There may be a few valid points but they are wrapped up in something so radical and wide-ranging and called for immediately that they are either lost and or undeliverable.
I'm not convinced about Fitzpatrick but I can't agree with calling out the money men for playing boardroom rugby does abramovich know much about football? Their role is surely to provide the environment for us to flourish including employing the right none playing staff from top to bottom.
We are all disappointed with our current arrangements but one thing that can't be levelled at us as a club is a lack of ambition and for that at least I'm grateful
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| I think part of the frustration with us the fans is a lack of clarity as to who does what certainly on the coaching side. I mean does Price do everything or just oversee everything and come up with game plans which I understand was TS way of working to a degree.
If we understood, for example, that Briers was in charge of offence and Henderson was in charge of defence then it might lend itself to a more rational debate and more objective finger pointing. From the outside, the lack of clarity makes it more difficult to properly understand what is going wrong and hence provide the best solutions.
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| Quote: Uncle Rico "There may be a few valid points but they are wrapped up in something so radical and wide-ranging and called for immediately that they are either lost and or undeliverable.
I'm not convinced about Fitzpatrick but I can't agree with calling out the money men for playing boardroom rugby does abramovich know much about football? Their role is surely to provide the environment for us to flourish including employing the right none playing staff from top to bottom.
We are all disappointed with our current arrangements but one thing that can't be levelled at us as a club is a lack of ambition and for that at least I'm grateful'"
But Abramovich is an absolute merciless ruthless businessman. These guys are not ruthless. Its plainly obvious to see that with the decisions they’ve made as a board of directors over the last few years.
If their role is to employ the right none playing staff from top to bottom then wouldn’t you agree they’ve failed in that regard in recent years?
Regarding us not lacking ambition. It would have been showing ambition for us to sack Price at the end of last season, like most fans craved and appointed Ian Watson but we never did. Yes we will sign the odd marquee player now and again like Greg Inglis just like other clubs do but there’s been a number of times when the club and its directors have shown zero ambition and accepted mediocrity and not listened to the fans in recent years.
I don’t think I have ever been as distant to the club as I am now. They just don't listen to the fans. The same fans who donated thousands of pounds were of season ticket money last season.
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| Quote: wire2004 "
I have a view and i think it may work.
1st off. Make a call and beg and plead for mr warrington himself paul cullen to come back to the club. I know it wasnt the best of exits. But time is a great healer and he has dug us out of problems in the past. Atleast we can see it now and not 12 games into the season where we could be in a worst position. And with relegation back on the table this year. We probably need 16 points to guarantee safety.
Next season. Move paul cullen upstairs and give him the position of ceo. I think he will do a fantastic job and will represent the club well as a ceo.
Allow the next coach to give cullen a list. And let's get the players who will actually do a job for us. In for next season.
As soon as cullen comes in. Place EVERYONE on notice that they are playing for there jobs..'"
You are Paul Cullen, and I claim my £5
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| Quote: Lord Tony Smith "But Abramovich is an absolute merciless ruthless businessman. These guys are not ruthless. Its plainly obvious to see that with the decisions they’ve made as a board of directors over the last few years.
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The Price debacle should be the end of Karl. I dont question Karl's thirst for commercial success, but he's dropped a bollock keeping Price after the way we ended last year. People can blame Covid but Hodgson went to Hull (after a REALLY ruthless sacking) and Watson handed his cards in at Salford. Hindsight now probably says Powell would've maybe jumped ship off season if we came up.
We need some rugby accumen making decisions with the business men up top making the numbers work (for which I'm grateful). Instead, we've got Karl and Steve, saying the exact same thing at the end of a poor playoffs in 2019 AND 2020.
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