Nail hit firmly on the head!

I would be happy for a transitional season if it is genuinely transitional, in the sense of developing new players who look like they will make it, rather than "transitional" being used as shorthand for "don't expect to win anything". If, for example, Higham and Monaghan were to play hooker every game, or at the end of the season no-one apart from Atkins, Bridge or Ratchford had played at centre I dont see why that would be transitional.

I use the word 'transition' as another word for 'trial and error'

Glad of the two points that might just help improve the teams' confidence in the coming weeks? I hope so as a season of one man rugby for 5 followed by a kick isn't great to watch nor getting nilled for a half at home.

I'm not going to slag off individuals but thought that Trent had a decent game and O'Brien is definately worth sticking with. Nothing really wrong with Ratchford's place kicking but why was he doing it in favour of GOB the writing on the wall perhaps about who will be losing their place when Russell is fit?

strange comments on here imo, did we win yesterday? Thought we played well considering we are low on confidence and not in form. were hardly strong at home when in form nevermind atm. and were playing with one HB aswell so our attack is gonna be poor.

not gonna say anything about referee preformance, as it was like it has been for past 10 years.

o'brien was the only player trying to organise the team and he needs some help in this department. it will be criminal if he is dropped when russell is back. forwards did well and asotasi looked solid and hopefully will keep getting better.

ratch did better today and looked more of a threat, overall a win is a win be it by 2 points or 30. its what we needed after the past 2 weeks. im sure we will improve after every game, with a bit of luck u cant rule out getting to a final this early. alot of negativity on here when we won the match against a team that we lost at home last year and a cc semi final too.

Don't let's kid ourselves....some of last year's performances were dire with a so called better team & we still got to Old Trafford !

That's fair enough, as long as we see new things being tried. And I don't mean this negatively, I'm encouraged that the likes of Ormsby and Ben Evans have already been used.

Good spot ( did not notice myself )

Just thought shock horror - we have re-signed Rhys Williams !

That said anyone else thick Ormsby has the running style of a baby giraffe ?

In terms of the London game, in my view Rhys Evans and Kevin Penny should be given a run-out, obviously Russell as well if he is fit.

I acknowledge that a settled, winning team is important but if we don't give people an oportunity to show what they can do, and London is clearly the ideal time to do it, then we may as well send them out on season-long loan and let someone else give them game time, and reap the benefit of their abilities.

After yesterday I remain baffled that anyone can defend Atkins & Myler anymore. Continuity of team selection is not a reason for burying of our heads in the sand; these are not new, inexperienced players they are seasoned professionals who should be at the peak of their powers. They have had a chance, failed, and should step aside to regain form whilst someone else gets a chance to shine.

Shouldn't we have feelers out for a half for this season?

GOB is the future but is he ready for this higher level now?
Myler?...does his future lie at Warrington? Is it worth writing off the £200k?

Perhaps Ratchford and GOB can make it work at 6 & 7 or would it leave us at sixes and sevens?

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of Riley and think he's a good player. I certainly am not one of these fans who whine about him every week. My point was simply that already, after 2 games, we're seeing comments like "Ormsby isn't good enough", which I find a little ridiculous considering he's brand new to the first team, he should be given a few more games before we're writing him off.

Writing players off is what we Warrington fans do best.

Bet Riley has a stormer against London if selected.

Then you will get 'its only London' etc...

Ormsby was terrible, cant catch and looked like he was treading water when trying to run, get him out and put king kev in