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Quote: Boss Hog "According to Abe Froman just now, Dwyer has NOT signed for us, and Ratchford will be playing 9 next season along with Walker.'"


dodged a bullet then if true
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Quote: Boss Hog "According to Abe Froman just now, Dwyer has NOT signed for us, and Ratchford will be playing 9 next season along with Walker.'"


Relatively happy with this. Ratchford still has value as a utility player, and will conveniently always be available on the bench if he's spelling Walker. Once we'd committed to signing him up for another two years, we needed a way to utilise him.

I wonder who will partner Wrench at centre?

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Quote: easyWire "Relatively happy with this. Ratchford still has value as a utility player, and will conveniently always be available on the bench if he's spelling Walker. Once we'd committed to signing him up for another two years, we needed a way to utilise him.

I wonder who will partner Wrench at centre?'"


Well reading Abe’s post Wrench does not look to be in the future plans.

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Quote: Gazwire "They signed him from St Helens at the end of last year. Saints signed his younger brother for the start of this season, hence the continued regular shouts of forward from Saints fans this season.'"

Let's not forget, Saints signed his dad in the inaugural SL season.
He had 2 testimonials.

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Quote: karetaker "Well reading Abe’s post Wrench does not look to be in the future plans.'"


I'd be surprised if Wrench is in next years plans. He was picked on the wing last week for the Reserves with Darbyshire & Miniken in the centres. If he was in line to play first team centre it would be a strange thing to do.

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I'm struggling to remember a game wrench played for the first team where he was poor. Idiotic decision if we get rid of him. Saints will probably be sniffing around him.

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Knowing us we.d keep matautia despite us getting king back(jeez)and we're after an Aussie centre and get rid of wrench to Wigan or saints...

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Quote: easyWire "
I wonder who will partner Wrench at centre?'"


Morgan Harper quite possibly.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Thewlis more or less had his back to Swift but he and Dufty together did enough to ensure the certain try wasn’t 6 points. Perhaps you missed that? Dwyer was probably the most liveliest player in the Hull team imo.
Hull were well beaten by Wire. Our pack floored them and Williams and Dufty shined.
I have to give credit to Richard Marshall. There is steel is in our defence that has been missing for a long time.'"


Dwyer might be ok for the odd run, but the rest of his game is shocking.

Against you, whilst he made good metres he also missed 8 tackles and made 3 errors, this doesn't include he poor passes and wrong selection, lost count of the times he has gone the wrong way and gone himself.

Against Wigan he missed 10 tackle, 4 errors and 4 penalties against him.

The negative he brings are far out weighing his positives, if you have managed to not sign him, you have dodged a bullett, can't see which SL club would sign him, maybe Fev if they come up?

On the game, we can too many forwards out and your forwards laid a good platform for the likes of Duffty and Williams. Be intresting if Powell was still in charge would you have beaten us?

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Quote: sir adrian morley "Knowing us we.d keep matautia despite us getting king back(jeez)and we're after an Aussie centre and get rid of wrench to Wigan or saints...'"

Always winter never Christmas.

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Quote: Captain Hook "Always winter never Christmas.'"


It could be that Christmas is their most stressful time of the year, it's not necessarily great for everyone. I personally, am now thinking of Newbury fruits and those orange and lemon slices that come in a flat round container. Also, the festive season is not the same without a Boxing day, and New Years day game against Widnes and Wigan.

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Quote: MorePlaymakersNeeded "It could be that Christmas is their most stressful time of the year, it's not necessarily great for everyone. I personally, am now thinking of Newbury fruits and those orange and lemon slices that come in a flat round container. Also, the festive season is not the same without a Boxing day, and New Years day game against Widnes and Wigan.'"

And those marzipan fruits that looked soooo tempting but tasted of…bloody marzipan!

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Quote: lefty goldblatt "Let's not forget, Saints signed his dad in the inaugural SL season.
He had 2 testimonials.'"


Aren't we getting mixed up with Saints Yorkshire cousin called Forrerd.

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It’s a tough one with centres these days. It’s just a bit of a lost art. Centres these days just seem need to run straight lines, be able to do basic catch and pass, be solid defenders and that’s pretty much it. If you’re good at chasing kicks it’s a bonus.

The days of Lyon, Gidley, Gleeson, Gasnier etc who could actually CREATE the space seem to be behind us. It’s a byproduct of the insistence on playing percentages, in my opinion. Same with a lack of genuine creativity from halfbacks. We just rely on ruck speed to create space.

Wrench (right now, but still young with lots of potential) and Ratchford don’t really fit in to that mood of being strong line runners and efficient defenders. So Burgess might be looking at 2 new centres, but that would mean moving King on to free up some money to balance the books. King, in a non-competitive field, is still in the top 4 or 5 centres in the league, but is not worth the money we committed to him.

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Quote: Barbed Wire "It’s a tough one with centres these days. It’s just a bit of a lost art. Centres these days just seem need to run straight lines, be able to do basic catch and pass, be solid defenders and that’s pretty much it. If you’re good at chasing kicks it’s a bonus.

The days of Lyon, Gidley, Gleeson, Gasnier etc who could actually CREATE the space seem to be behind us. It’s a byproduct of the insistence on playing percentages, in my opinion. Same with a lack of genuine creativity from halfbacks. We just rely on ruck speed to create space.

Wrench (right now, but still young with lots of potential) and Ratchford don’t really fit in to that mood of being strong line runners and efficient defenders. So Burgess might be looking at 2 new centres, but that would mean moving King on to free up some money to balance the books. King, in a non-competitive field, is still in the top 4 or 5 centres in the league, but is not worth the money we committed to him.'"


Moving King on may prove very difficult. There is no team in the league prepared to match his ludicrous contract.I can't blame him for sitting tight and pocketing the dough riding the gravy train to the end of the line.

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