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Bottom line is...
We all want Williams in and 4 doesn’t go into 3.

The question is an easy one...which pivot makes way, Widdop, Ratchford or Austin?

Don’t let me influence you, but all three of them are leaders is one way or another. Currently who’s played, the most talented player at Wire is Ratchford, the best half back is Widdop, Austin has earned more than anyone in SL over the last 3 years, and by some margin.

Interesting point. If Mamo's CV before coming here was: State of Origin player, Kangaroo international, then on the back of his performances there would be some people saying Mamo for an Aussie star has a lot of flaky moments and others would say just look at what he does when he's on his game, he's a genuine match winner, look at his interceptions he is up there with Ryan Girdler at knowing when to break out of the line and pick the pass and once he's away he's away. He would almost certainly be getting another big contract because those who wanted to see enough to justify it would have seen it.

If you could have Patton back as well as Williams, who would make way for Patton.

No one. I’ve never said I’m a Patton fan. I’m 100% Wire.
I’ve pointed out facts, Patton is/was the only recognised successful halfback since Lee Briers....
There was many a game I’d have prefer to had seen Patton instead of Austin, not in hindsight, as I bigged up Austin as much as anyone. I’m an advocate that a big good un, always beats a small good un.
Patton may not have been the most liked, and came in for much criticism. Can’t recall if it was his double pump pass secured us to Wembley or a try he scored, been a while...for sure, he was the best kicker at Wire, if he was still at Wire, he’d still be the best kicker!
Would I have him back..nooo. Ship sailed and we’ve Williams. Would I swap Austin for Patton if we had to have that 4th halfback...you wouldn’t need ask me twice. You bet I would.

that is the biggest insult that has been given to Blake Austin Sally, mentioning him alongside Tyrone Roberts!!!!

I am repeating myself here but I've got to as a few seem to have short memories. Austin when he arrived looked like a wonderful signing. He was ahead of the Man of Steel and he was scoring tries for fun ... but he got a nasty leg injury vs. Catalan and he has probably lost just that bit of pace which was getting him through those gaps. Personally he is going to have to come to terms with playing for much less money wherever he plays but that happens to most players. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY_2rZOnALU

I am repeating myself here but I've got to as a few seem to have short memories. Austin when he arrived looked like a wonderful signing. He was ahead of the Man of Steel and he was scoring tries for fun ... but he got a nasty leg injury vs. Catalan and he has probably lost just that bit of pace which was getting him through those gaps. Personally he is going to have to come to terms with playing for much less money wherever he plays but that happens to most players. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY_2rZOnALU

He was never able to reprise that period as teams learned to not buy the dummy.

He's still a good player though, just not worth marquee money.

I'm afraid, some, do lose that edge of pace at the age of 30. When it happens your whole game is just not the same. I think he's trying.

This is where my comments about his hands come from, the step would have had a bit more longevity if he was able to put doubt in the defence by giving a better (non drop off) pass to bmm, or out to charnley.

You had Briers going down that channel, is he gonna pass to 2nd row, centre or winger, go himself or kick it?


Austin? Step or 50% success rate drop off to bmm or hughes(which does nothing)

Totally agree, that's why Widdop has been so effective this year. Defenders can't commit to defending one specific aspect of his game as he has all the tools. And he has the speed of thought to see where the biggest weakness in the line is.

It's not that Austin is a terrible passer or kicker but he's overwhelmingly less likely to hurt you with those than he is with his step.

I don't think Charnley will miss Austin's passing game, put it that way.

I chose to not stress that point, but everyone on here and elsewhere knows how much flak charnley has copped for ages about not scoring, "we should get rid of him"

It is dreadfully apparent its not his fault.

Veering slightly off topic. Charnley looked in real trouble in the last game holding his wrist. Any injury news on this ?

I noticed he's caught a bit of a whacker and a new PB so hopefully all ok.