A Wire mate said to me at the end of last season that “BMM is like a terminator”, and last week “his mind is on going back too the NRL. I don’t know how true the latter is.

You should see their Twitter account.. They never shut up about us

Come on buddy chin up. It's part of the plan you normally start well and finish poorly, this season you have started poorly and will go on to win the SL Grand Final.

Just as one swallow doesn’t make a summer (as in last week) one bad game doesn’t spoil a season - nothing is won or lost in February.
As Sally says, time to assess is after 10-12 games.

Isn't it the point that its not 1 game. We are 10 losses from last 12 and 7 months since our last away win.

But you are right, we need to stay the execution and watch it all play out before us.

To be honest, price needs to pay with his job, his poor team selection is costing us wins. He can not motivate the team, the he decides to put out there. Why persist with Burrell, I haven’t seen anything yet to suggest he will make it in super league, yet he persists in wasting as spot on him. How many coaches drop a player who was our standout in the last 2 games. Maybe he could have caught Tom Johnston in the last few minutes and kept us in the game and raised his already glowing reputation further. What message does it send to up and coming young players, ? One bad game doesn’t end our season, however we have been on a downward spiral since Easter last year. As good as our challenge cup win was and long may it live in our memory, but it should not have papered over the cracks from last year. And please take that smiling buffoon Kirkpatrick with you, he seems to be the goose that laid the golden egg, it’s a bad time to be a wire fan, and I’ve been watching since 1975, I have never been so bored with the style of rugby we are playing. Given the money spent. It is woeful, the book has to stop with the coach, and his staff.

Amen!

It's not team selection that is the problem, nor is it fitness. We have a spine of D Clark, Austin, Widdop and Ratchford whom most other teams would die for. The rest of the team were more than good enough- on paper at least. It has to come down to coaching.

Toronto at home this week should be an easy win (famous last words) so it's all about how we perform. I'm not bothered about a cricket score, what I want to see is attacking rugby and 100% effort.

Perfect

A bad time to be a Wires fan? NO it really really isn't!

We are the current Challenge Cup holders! From 1974 until 2009 we didn't win a single, major honour....not one!

So get some perspective.

The year we nearly got relegated whilst still playing at Wilderspool was a bad time to be a fan. When we had a team full of nobodys and £. God, some of the absolute dross we used to watch back in the 90's....when saints were putting 80 odd on us regularly. We have no god given right to win every match, and if the team aren't in the right mind set, they will get turned over by anybody in the league. That goes for any team in the league. The salary cap has made it much more even. So please get some perspective.

I was thinking that - this is like a golden age to be a wire fan, team full of internationals and marquee players, relatively recently moved into what many agree to be the best Rugby League ground in the league, winning silverware or at least challenging at the top end.

Your man should try and be a Wakey fan for a few years, that would soon make him appreciate what hes got!

^^^THIS^^^

Posts like this are one of the major contributing reasons why we haven't won a GF. Teams like Leeds, Wigan, Saints and Back in the day, Bradford had fans that did and still do demand perfection week in week out. We however have a majority of fans that are ok with mediocrity because as OE puts it, we've come a long way from "some of the absolute dross we used to watch back in the 90's" SO EFFING WHAT?!?

I couldn't give a toss about the 90's and the VDV era etc. That's been and gone, we're not that club anymore. we're a well financed, well backed team full of internationals, blue chip sponsors, one of the biggest supported clubs in the league with a state of the art training facility and a stadium that looks on 80% of the league with shame. FORGET ABOUT WHERE WE'VE COME FROM FFS and wake up.

The sooner our fans start demanding success and demanding nothing but 100% in every game instead of accepting games like Sunday; the sooner this club might actually wake up and take it to the next level.

Agree, expectations are higher and for good reason including available resources, playing roster, facilities to name but three. Are we getting a good value bang for our buck. No we are not.

I'd like you to define mediocrity in RL terms. Mediocrity is not having a team capable of winning the Challenge Cup. Mediocrity is playing in a stadium from the 60's. Mediocrity is being happy just to stay in the top flight.

We ARE short of players to make us a Grand Final winning team. We did have a team, not that long ago, capable of winning the GF and the fell short to one of the greatest ever RL teams (Leeds).

I am not happy with where we are now....but to suggest its "a bad time to be a Wires fan" is absolute nonsense. We should be doing better, maybe we need another coach to get us to the next level...but as a fan for 40+ years, I totally disagree its a "bad time" to be a wire.