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Quote: morleys_deckchair "i think there are 2 types.

type 1 - Doesnt want the ball as he doesn't like getting smashed, so his colleagues have to pickup his slack.
type 2 - Goes round putting in sly digs and giving it the big man, then hides behind his team mates when the going gets a bit rough.'"


Perfect description of Ryan Bailey.

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Myler was dreadful last night - how he gets a run is beyond me. Offers nothing in attack other then slowing it down. Someone mentioned his broken field play - it was non-existent compared to how he used to play.
His kicking game was a disgrace.

The only plus point was his defence - and that was found wanting on Broughton's try.

Get rid.

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Quote: Gaz_E "Myler was dreadful last night - how he gets a run is beyond me. Offers nothing in attack other then slowing it down. Someone mentioned his broken field play - it was non-existent compared to how he used to play.
His kicking game was a disgrace.

The only plus point was his defence - and that was found wanting on Broughton's try.

Get rid.'"


makes you realise just how good Briers was...because with a top quality, creative half back...Myler is actually quite good...as a support player.

If you are relying on him to get you around the pitch and call the plays...forget it.

And GOB isn't 'that' player for me...he has a decent, developing rugby brain and has a decent kicking game....but he's no where near quick enough and isn't sufficiently experienced to make the right calls during a game. It might come for him over time.... but he's got a quarter of what Briers had ....at a similar age.

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Just a side thought, how come we didn't have the send offs and good byes for the players leaving last night, what with it being the last actual home game.

They normally do it then, not taking into account the possibility of play off games.

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Quote: morrisseyisawire "I have a lot of time for England, he's improved a lot this year and I think there's plenty still to come.

As for O'Brien/Myler, one thing I've noticed is that O'Brien seems to get targetted much more than Myler, to the extent where is quite often caught in posession. Now, is this because he is not fast enough of thought/foot, his positional sense or awareness of what is going on is wrong or simply that he is perceived by the opposition as much of a threat?

I don't know, but he was one of our better last night, his kicking game was bob on, he took his try very well, his kick for Atkins was excellent and one or two misreads aside, he looked assured at this level. We certainly need to bring another dominant HB in but I am firmly of the belief that it is Gareth, not Myler, who should be partnering them.'"


Agree about England, he appears to be trying and therefore is improving under a full time regime.

As far as GOB is concerned, I too thought he had a good game last night up there with Harrison for MOM. IMO he gets targeted more than Myler because he does take the line on, sometimes over doing it and that's when he gets caught sometimes getting one in the chops for his trouble. I also like the fact that he doesn't go into hiding, but, whether he's the answer I'm not so sure......he needs to kick on right now

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Briers at a 24! Give me GOB over him any day!
Briers was up to many things that effected his playing!
I have a long memory. He has a lot to thank tony smith for!

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Quote: rubber duckie "Briers at a 24! Give me GOB over him any day!
Briers was up to many things that effected his playing!
I have a long memory. He has a lot to thank tony smith for!'"



I've always been an advocate of everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you've clearly opened the sherry cabinet a bit too early today, duckie.

At this point in his career (judging his comparative age with GO'B), Briers had just formed a devastating partnership with Appo until he (Lee) had broken his leg/ankle/foot.

Briers had also learned under the tutelage of a legend (Langer), and received dozens of MoMs and had RU sniffing round for his services

GO'B has been passed from pillar to post, not excelling anywhere. Don't get me wrong, there's nowt wrong with the lad, he just doesn't possess that "x factor" that makes him into a very good HB.

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I've seem briers put in one great game followed up by many average and poor ones, and repeat.
Smith changed that, I am always open to opinion to change my mind, unfortunately on this matter I've seen it with my own eyes throughout his career at Warrington.

I don't doubt Lee's fantastic talent, just his self discipline!

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Quote: lefty goldblatt "At this point in his career (judging his comparative age with GO'B), Briers had just formed a devastating partnership with Appo until he (Lee) had broken his leg/ankle/foot.

Briers had also learned under the tutelage of a legend (Langer), and received dozens of MoMs and had RU sniffing round for his services
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For what it's worth, GOB is just now at the age Briers was when Langer came over.

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Quote: MortigiTempo "For what it's worth, GOB is just now at the age Briers was when Langer came over.'"



and about four and half thousand Wire fans wouldn't have batted an eyelid if Briers was shipped out Swinton on loan to make way for Langer....

Look I loved Lee Briers I was a fan when pre-Tony Smith many were saying he'd had his chance and we should go after x y and z,

but also I sent a former poster on here a pm years ago pre 2009 saying, as good as he was i didn't think we would ever win anything as long as Lee was at the club. thankfully I was wrong but he was a big reason as to why we had to watch other clubs win stuff for a long long time....

Last night I thought Gareth O brien looked confident, possessed a good range of skills, made some good decisions set up a couple of tries and all this playing along side one of the worst ever displays from a half back partner i have ever seen

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Quote: the flying biscuit "and about four and half thousand Wire fans wouldn't have batted an eyelid if Briers was shipped out Swinton on loan to make way for Langer....

Look I loved Lee Briers I was a fan when pre-Tony Smith many were saying he'd had his chance and we should go after x y and z,

but also I sent a former poster on here a pm years ago pre 2009 saying, as good as he was i didn't think we would ever win anything as long as Lee was at the club. thankfully I was wrong but he was a big reason as to why we had to watch other clubs win stuff for a long long time....

Last night I thought Gareth O brien looked confident, possessed a good range of skills, made some good decisions set up a couple of tries and all this playing along side one of the worst ever displays from a half back partner i have ever seen'"



Van De Velde shot Briers confidence to pieces around this time (as he did with a lot of the young Btitish players) even at one point moving him to fullback.

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Quote: Nothus "I've never seen a pass from dummy half be intercepted by one of the marker defenders like that before. Insanity.'"


Cudjoe wasn't standing square at the PTB....Penalty to Wire.

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Weird game last night.

Started well then bizarrely we went in for half time after 25 minutes and stayed in until the 50th minute! Our kicking game was extremely poor. We put no more than half a dozen good kicks in to the end of sets all night. There were times I looked on and thought we looked unfit as well.

But in the last half hour we were class. From some solid defence to some of the lads putting some huge metres in, it got us right on the front foot and changed the game.

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G'ob always plays a safe pass, nothing too elaborate but his out of hand kicking has been a joy to watch. His kicks last night bang on turning the defence. I thought Brough looked poor in comparison to G'Ob in the kicking department last night.

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Mummy duck is now thoroughly depressed. SHE was the one that was famous for losing five in a row........until the 2011 GF!!!!!:



Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "Just a side thought, how come we didn't have the send offs and good byes for the players leaving last night, what with it being the last actual home game.

They normally do it then, not taking into account the possibility of play off games.'"


Arent we currenty guaranteed at leat 1 play-off game ? We just dont know which week.

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