The thread in question is a merged thread, one of which was discussing the wire v hudds match... (something that happens with a lot of televised games when wigan arent playing before you start saying were obessing over wire games... ) ganson was nothing short of shocking, so why wouldn't the thread have comments about how bad he was and how much he ruined the game?.. no one is saying he changed the result, merely that being whistle happy it was ruined as a spectacle. Some wire fans seem to agree on that point, and others decide to ignore it and think were all just trying to claim the match was a fix...

You didn't quote my caveat.

I'm sorry, but I'm stunned as to why Robbo can call Ganson's performance as "attrocious, poor and shocking"

Yes, he was whistle happy, and it disjointed the start of the game, but tell me one decision he got badly wrong. NONE.

We battered Hudds, with no help from the ref. Hudds were masters of their own downfall.
I don't remember Ganson laying on, headhigh tackling, holding down. Huddersfield players (and ours) did it, and were rightly penalised.

These Pie-eaters can't even acknowledge that we've beaten a team 'out of site'...there has to be a detrimental reason.

What's going to be their excuses IF we win the GF
Russell Grant's horoscope was wrong
The opposition's coach driver ran over a black cat on the way to the ground
Fadge walked under a ladder??????

FFS, give us some credit, and not say our wins are due to a third party

Stunned? i wouldn't of expected you to be one of the wire fans that agree he had a poor game... but I'm not going to derail this thread by going over the decisions he got wrong, half the head high shots had Warrington players slipping into the tackle. and happened a few times throughout the game, some got penalised some didn't... (ok so maybe ill derail it a tiny bit...)

Like i said, there'll be those wire fans that will agree that he was poor.. and those fans that will deny it just because they are decided that wigan fans think it was a fix, are using it as an excuse..and simply don't want to accept that Warrington trounced them.

Thats all i'll say on that matter because i get the feeling you will argue until your blue in the face about something that is a matter of opinion rather than fact...

And I don't recall saying your win was due to a third party?.. I do recall saying "no one is saying he changed the result, merely that being whistle happy it was ruined as a spectacle" which IMO was the case. You blew Huddersfield out the water and I don't see many people saying otherwise.


As for if you win the GF, Your "excuses.. " albeit very funny, are way of the mark.. On current form we are going to struggle to even get past next week, and if we somehow do win, then win the semi and make it to the grand final I can't see to many Wigan fans having any silly excuses when the likely event of us being hammered in the GF happens. But, its not over till the fat lady sings as they say.

Head high tackles? Slipping into them? Still a penalty. Ganson penalised both teams early, we got a bit of a roll on which led to Hudds trying to slow us down resulting in more penalties. I suggest you look at the laws of the game, then buy the latest Wigan shirt and find a different bridge to have a lovely photo on.

It isn't over till Wane sings, I think you will beat the Dragons but struggle at Saints.

There's no way I can say Ganson had a poor game...because he didn't.
As Hemmings and McRae said in commentary "there hasn't been a bad penalty"....so can you PLEASE tell me how Ganson's performance was "attrocious" etc...I really am intrigued...I don't care if it's classed as arguing 'til I'm blue in the face.....the evidence is there. Players transgressed, they got penalised...it really is that simple.

FFS, there was post after post on your board, about how Ganson "gave the game to Wire", which backs up my original post of pie-eaters never giving us credit for wins. We've had loads of suchlike threads, off your lot, recently.
Our win (finally) away to Stains was only due to it being on neutral ground and their injuries.
Our 'dicking' of your lot recently, was only due to Wigan being 'tired' after Wembley.
Our annhilations of teams, have been down to the poor standard of other clubs.
Our 2 CC cups and LLS were worthless, as they're 'Mickey Mouse'
And don't even get me started on the 'willy measuring' of players, e.g. comparing Hansen to Westwood, insanity to start with, but when posters start trying to bring irrelevent stats into it, it becomes even more laughable.

Oh and by the way, I merely mentioned IF we win the GF, you automatically post back that you're going to be there, too. On the evidence of 2 of your last 3 matches, I'd say you have some improvement to do, before thinking of getting there.

Maybe labelling ganson "as atrocious" was over the top, but my original opinion still stands that he was poor.and for as many people who say he wasn't poor there'll be just as many who say otherwise, so again its a pretty pointless arguement. There were quite a few wire posters who i know on here posting on twitter that theyre opinion was similar. but i wont expect them to back me up on here... not that i would want/need them too anyway. Yep theres many people on our board saying he gave you the game, theres also many people on our board saying otherwise.. Had it been wigan playing hudds and the reffing was the same Im sure the opinion from other teams fans would be split just the same...

Oh but eddie and mcrae said otherwise so its a fact and they must be right!...




please tell me were i assume we are going to be in the gf too.... I quite clearly state just to quote again...

"we are going to struggle to even get past next week"

"and IF we Somehow do then win the semi...."

Its all if's and buts, we are up against it but its not impossible, i fail to see where i have said we are going to be in the final.

I don't really see what Robbo is posting to be so irksome lefty if I'm honest. Yes the penalties he gave were all there to be given, I think what got people's backs up was that suddenly those penalties [iwere[/i being given, look back over the games in SL so far this season and most of what was punished against Hudds was being let-go.

To be honest, the main thing that [ireally[/i gets my back up as far as being penalised or not goes, is moving forward off the mark before playing the ball. There's an argument to say that if the defence is set and the ref doesn't move them further back, then the attacking team are just chewing up their own space and they won't get any benefit from it - but this isn't quite the case, on numerous occasions this season, I have seen this happen on sky games and there is one common result of this particular tactic being used, that is, the ball player moving forward off the mark makes it impossible for the defending markers to get square, on occasions these markers will make a reflex tackle on the dummy half, this results in a penalty against the defence for not being square - infuriating, since the penalty should be for not playing the ball on the mark.

There. Rant over!

You misunderstood me Robbo, I didn't say Hudds forced Ganson to give the penalties, I said they were there to be given, There's a difference. And truth be told, there were many more "there to be given" from both teams during the rest of the game, too.

But the way he reffed the game was with the sole intention to create a good flowing game of rugby league by stopping players lying on and messing about at the play the ball which Huddersfield aim to do in every game to try and even things up. Huddersfield either had to change the way they play or keep giving penalties away - they chose the latter because they don't know any other way.

I think the reason Wigan fans have got so upset over this is because they aren't used to see quick play the balls and 'flowing' games of rugby league with Madge in charge!

Let not forget either that refs will speak to the captains before the games and let them know "how" he will be reffing. Will he be allow time at the POB, will he be going back 10 yards, or 11 etc.