I love stats.

They're great aren't they mate? In a thoroughly Stat-tastic kind of way.

You ain't seen nothing yet. Let's Rock!

So Hicks and Gleeson are the problem(s)?

I like to try and stick to the topic in hand rather than petulant insults which offer no use to a discussion.

No we don't have a problem, now that Penny has gone.

The stats that you have provided cant be denied but im not talking about the team defence.
Regardless of how many tries has been scored down the middle or on the right, that fact doesn't show up King or Penny as being poor, however tries scored down the left wing/centre positions do and since penny has been dropped we have conceded very few.

Put it this way, Penny played against Saints and we conceded 3 maybe 4 tries down his wing, Penny hasn't played in the other 5 games and we have only conceded 2 tries down that same wing.

How do you explain the four games where 168 points conceeded in Penny's absence?

Unfortunately points count towards the result whether they are scored down the right, left or middle. The fact that we are conceding fewer points down the left means nothing when we start haemorrhaging points elsewhere.

Perhaps what has happened is that now that Penny is not there, opposition teams started targetting other parts of the defense and found even more incompetent defense than they previously did down our left!

Seriously pal do you not read post's properly

168 points were conceded by the team, only 2 tries were scored down the left wing, im not interested in the team defence, im trying to explain why i feel our LEFT SIDED DEFENCE has become stronger without penny.

I was typing whilst that was being posted, so no i missed it, can you not tell by the time of the post's

So if you cant be bothered to read them, why comment on them

1 try against Catalans and 1 against Wakefield.

Pffft. Where do I start with this comment?