What a shocking performance. Shining lights as previously stated Grix, J Mono, Currie and Ratch when he wasnt kicking.

What happened to Myler again?

Where was the grunt in the forwards?

All that plus a statement from "her in doors", Why do our players look fat? Did me for a minute or two but then looking at some of our lot you can see that they are carrying more timber than last year. Is this a ploy to give more cushioning or are they a little on the porky side?

The additional off-loads and passes that are 'not on' come about due to players trying to make up for their poor play / form. They are over-compensating. Similarly gaps can appear as the next man in the defensive line comes in to help his neighbour make a tackle (because he is not confident he will make the tackle). Normally this is most evident on the wings as it leaves the door open to the winger. When players do find space or a gap, they rush the decision and make a poor one etc etc. So for me, these are all symptoms of the poor form and lack of confidence. But the 'disease', ie the main cause that has to be addressed is the need for 4 very high quality players around which we can re-build a good team again. The return of Briers and Morley will only be a 'stop gap' for this season.

Your season seems to be mirroring ours in 2011, with Mcguire and Peacock injured they are almost exactly like Briers and Morley being injured for you! They should be a big lift for you, as they were for us. But, wether any team is able to replicate what we did from fifth remains to be seen. Forget the final positioning doesn't matter argument, we were an exception not the rule.

Twice Atkins had open field to the try line in front of him and twice he hesitated as soon as he got the ball in hand.

as Ian says, match for match we are very similar to last year. Last year we drew with Hull; this year with Wigan. Last year we lost at Salford; this year we lost at Widnes. We lost away at Hull KR and Leeds last year as well as at home to St H. I agree we don't look good right now but lots of time to get into form and win the double.

I've read some tosh in my time but this tops the lot.

its a belter isnt it

While Child was woeful he was only a small part in our defeat. If you thought we were the better team then maybe we should call the blokes in white coats.

Don't panic, we were e last season until Catalans away in the cup. Having said that I'd say top four is realistically where we'll finish, not that league position actually matters.

shocking first half from wire,very *dubious* ( joke )reffing descions to say the least! ( are forward passes and crossing and obstruction non penalties this season? ) plus sloppy defending costing us a least two tries,add that to a very poor kicking game ,and you would have thought wire would have been well beaten,scorewise,yet wire were beaten by only a try and goal?i rem last season around this time when ppl were asking if wire were losing the plot etc etc ,--it still early days! just move on to the nxt game ---keep the faith---

i guess the name Knuckles tells you all you need to know!!!

You need to get out more !

I'll tell my husband you said that !

Atkins and Riley were abysmal. Riley's none attempt at tackling was shameful and Atkins needs some time at Swinton. His game reading and general play is well short this year. What on earth has happened to him?

Ben Currie is looking fantastic though. Him and Ratchford (e kicking aside)

I think Currie would look even better as a centre.

Now that does say it all.
If you truly think you were the better team then I suggest you need to get out more or starting watching the Goons.