If you'd have read my post on page 4 of this thread you'd have noticed i didn't go + yes i was a diehard in the dark days of the hammerings on a regular basis + to be honest i thought the days of getting 50+ points put past us were long gone especially when people keep going on about the depth of squad we have + there's accepting defeat with effort but the Wembley excuse a week before does not warrant such a disgraceful performance.Rant over.

youll feel better in the morning when you wake up...dont get too hung up just play back the wigan game and

A lot of wire fans predicted a defeat or a narrow victory tonight. The margin was a surprise, but we are guaranteed 2nd spot. I can't see Wigan dropping points.

I only hope we field a strong side against the smellies for the last game. A defeat to them is unacceptable even in a pointless game.

I can fully understand why people are hacked off with this performance.
For me it shows we don't have the strength in depth some think we have.

BUT I can't agree with all the doom and gloom (a lot of it -yes, but not all).
TS has to take responsibility for this performance. Simply too many changes.
Tyke had a good game imo and is in contention for a starting place as Wembley.
I thought Blythe tried hard and did OK, but won't force himself into the 17.
Evans didn't really do a lot wrong, and neither did Williams but they were never really in contention for Wembley in my view.
Bridge had a poor game but so did Monas
Moz looked off the pace compared to Hill
Cooper tried hard but is 5th prop at the club (6th if you include Harrison).
Riley had a poor game but was safe under the bomb (except for when Myler got in the way).
Woody and Waterhouse seemed to get pulled off early but did ok (hope they're not injured).
Grix did himself no favours and Solo needs to get fitter (really looked overweight).
Atkins seemed to have an eye on Wembley
Myler and Ratch still need a Briers in the side.

Early days but (unless there are any knocks I guess Wembley line up will be -
Hodgson
Riley
Atkins
Ratchford
Monaghan
Briers
Myler
Carvell
Higham
Hill
Westwood
Waterhouse
Harrison

Monas
Wood
Moz
and one from Grix / Tyke

I really feel for all our fans that went to London tonight, they will have paid a lot of money and taken time off work to support their team.

Tony Smith has been fantastic for the Warrington Wolves but tonight's team selection has left a bad taste in my mouth.

nothing to add cept,jesus wept!!!!! roll on wembley when the *real wire* will turn up !!!!!!!!

Yep - agreed.
I live in Northampton and watched it at the pub as couldn't face the friday night journey to see a performance that I expected to be dodgy.

The problem is far more underlying than that.

Wire don't have the strength in depth that they perceive.

This will be harsh for many Wire fans to accept, but I think Smith will go in a couple of years when the "oldies" retire.

Tyke for me, he's been immense in the last two months.

Just got home after the game (I live just up the road so one vote for Broncos staying where they are). What an awful mess tonight. At the end of the game most Wires supporters gave the team a good reception, coming down to the wall and clapping them. There were one or two who were angry and shouting abuse and Riley got a bit upset and was shouting back for a while before he was calmed down.

Clearly next week was in everyone's minds but it is difficult to be sure just how good some of our younger players really are. It's also a bit of a shame to gain points against top teams just to throw them away here. We shouldn't lose by that much.

Oh well, roll on next week.

Or one oldie in particular - Lee Briers. Warrington never look the same without him and his unwashed flowing locks pulling the strings. Surely he can't keep going much longer either.

I think it is fair to say the depth is there, but the definition is squad depth. Wholesale changes that fail to make the necessary impact, is more a reflection of the composition of the side than the individuals.

I would have thought Smith would relish reinventing the squad, similar to the task of what he did at Leeds.

It isn't. They are average as some of us more reasoned supporters have been telling you for a while.

You'll beat Leeds by at least 20 points.

Wembley next week, 1st or 2nd in the league, I don't really give two s. Simple fact is tonight was an absolute disgrace. 62 yes 62 points conceded against a team near the bottom of the league is nothing short of disgraceful. No other team in the league would have lost by that score tonight no matter what was coming next week. It just shows a complete disregard for the people paying their wages.

Just a few obvious notes on tonights game, and the season in general.
1/ You can count on 1 hand the number of impressive games we have played this season.
2/ We are nowhere near as an impressive team as we were last season. ( please don't quote stats like, by this time last season........
3/ A lot of the players on the pitch tonight we're just not interested..
4/ When Briers ( and it's taken 8 pages to name him) is not on the pitch, we are utterly clueless.
5/ This season has been by far the worse I can remember ( quality-wise) in SL. The sooner P+R is brought back, the franchise system is ridden, and winning SL is far more important than a separate comp finalising at Old Trafford, the better. What other sporting organisation rewards a team to be higher than the 1 that wins it's weekly rounds?
6/ Get Bridge fully-fit and put him 2nd row.
7/ Myler...just go away, only Offiah is laughing
8/ London played very well. Ok, they got a few decisions, but David Howells was certainly impressive, they were fast, hungry, clever at the ptb and Luke Dorn was 6/4 to score anytime
9/ Anyone who thinks that, that performance will be turned-around next week, is deluded.
10/ Michael Monaghan, by his own words, will never be 100% fit again, why did'nt we have a secondary hooker on the bench?