I must say i didn't go last night but it sounded very painful on the wireless & i got to a stage where i was praying for the match to end. I can't say that we offered anything in attack apart from rushed plays & the amount of dropped ball that we came to expect last season. We have said before that when Briers didn't play the team struggled & we are now finding the same with Sandow. It was obvious that Brough was going to kick us to death tonight so what measures were put in place by the coaching staff to take the game to Huddersfield? A team performance should have been worked on but it seems that without a certain playmaker we are no better than last season. One meaningful attack on the Huddersfield line is ridiculous.
No doubt if the going gets really tough in the weeks ahead R.Agar will be touted as first team coach to take the flack.

TS bad mouthed Brough about 4 or 5 seasons ago, defending McDonut and his decision not to select Brough for England half back, once again playing a loose forward instead.

Brough rammed those comments back down his trap tonight.

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Nil to the side at the bottom! Is a wheel coming off the wire bandwagon? Nah, it was probably just a virus.

When Wakefield stick 62 on us not 11 we'll be worried

Brough already knew he wasn't going to get selection over yet another loose forward playing half back.
TS gobs off and Brough gives his two fingered response on the field every year since.

Funny enough, i disagree!
I thought we were superb at times and tactically brilliant, kicking early, and long and watching your big forwards still trundling back 2 plays later, using the wet conditions superbly, and defending like demons, something that has cost us games this season, and to be fair Wire's defence was good at times too, i think there was 2 or 3 occasions you managed to turn our players on their backs over the line.

You didn't attack well because we didn't let you, we were off the line and in your faces which caused panic and without a good kicking game like we had, were unable to make anything of it.

Was a good old fashioned slog though and i enjoyed it!

We didn't attack well because you didnt let us?

I forgot all the times we dropped the ball...under no pressure what so ever, when we did manage to string a pass together we made lots of metres, probably 10m per carry, you didn't defend especially well apart from the holding Rhys up over the line, we couldn't have unlocked a cattle gate last, every time the line beckoned we fluffed it, you had set after set on our line due to Broughs pin point kicking, you spent the majority of the game in our half due to our ridiculous error rate.
But sorry you weren't that good, two poor teams out there last night.
We were clueless in attack...similar to last year, something Smith has never addressed. He lets the players play what they see...with Briers, M.Monaghan, Hodgson, Sandow that works, but without them we are completely without an idea, we don't have the set plays that other teams have, we looked pedestrian, we were walking it in a lot of times and devoid of all ideas.

We beat ourselves, you were nothing special.

I'm not being arrogant, i usually fire praise where it is due, with the ball you had you should have scored minimum 30 points, but you were also a poor team.
Without Brough last night that could have been nil nil.
Similar to his Wakefield days, pulling a s**t team through by just himself.

Oh ok then, we won cos you kept dropping the ball and didn't play like champions elect?? , fair enough, i must have watched a different game then.

I'm with you, Meast. Walking down to the stadium (after falling over on a grassy gnol) I said that we needed to play a patient game; force the restart, keep hold of the football and don't feel the need to score at the end of every set.

Unfortunately, Anderson had similar thoughts where as we just didn't play to the conditions. I'm sorry, Ratchford, but booting the football into the air and hoping for the best won't get you anywhere. I'm not quite sure why, but Warrington have rarely played well in the rain under Mr Smith!

Sadly last night was like rolling the clock back 12 months, but we should take nothing away from the Giants who played the conditions perfectly.

Wow- stay off the lemon drops.
The reason you dropped so much ball in the second half was because you were tired and panicked. You were tired because we slaughtered you in the first half on possession and territory. Our large amount of possession and territory in the first half was not due to you turning the ball over (that was in the second half) - it was due to us keeping it and forcing repeat sets. Kicking deep and defending very well, Rapira and Johnson got quick ptbs and had your big guys back-pedalling constantly.we wore you out.. You panicked when you realised we were scrambling so well and were throwing passes that weren't on. Our youngsters stepped up to the likes of sims and Westwood and didn't allow themselves to be bullied.
Your players probably were a little off the boil- but I think we forced a lot of that by how we played in the first 20 minutes.

Obviously you did, how hard is it to defend one up rugby or a team that when they throw it out wide drop it.
A championship team would have kept us out last night, Gidley was awful, Ratchford is not a halfback, a conversation that has been had many a times on this forum.
We ended up with the 5 drives and kick rugby, obviously not getting to 5 that often due to a frankly pathetic and clueless attack.

Tell me what you did special in defence? Seriously what?
How often did you scramble? How often did you slide under pressure? Tell me what was so special about us driving down the middle and your guys numbering up?

Yes your attack (Brough) was on it, but you didn't do anything special in defence, we didn't have the ball enough for you to be.
But likewise with all that pressure in our line...you scored 11.

You came out on top of 2 very bad teams that is it.

There are only 2 players in the whole of this team that are often willing to take the ball forward with it in their hands...Sandow and Clark. The rest of the team throw it a out, hot potatoing.

Yes it's good to see the ball moved when a player is tackled occasionally, but we are constantly looking to offload when one finger gets laid on us.
Do our forwards even know what a bust or break is anymore?

I'm sick of shouting every game "run with the ball!"

How overrated is Sims? He should be playing like a man mountain, yet spends most of the game on his .