Be interesting to see the minutes, and complaints from saints (that rhymes) philbin only got 2 games

Yeh looking forward to seeing that. Knowles grading was D 2-3 I know when it goes to tribunal that the panel can increase it. I’m wondering did Saints try to appeal the grading and then got stuck with the 2 extra games.

And over on Redvee it’s still a conspiracy, not seen this much conspiracy since the killing of JFK.

It’s comedy gold AGAIN. I almost feel sorry for the couple of fair-minded posters on there, must be exhausting.

Visions of Wellens following the ban stood in front of Cull and Co with his arms outstretched in similar fashion to his entire playing career.

Thanks, but I don’t go on often.

https://www.rugby-league.com/article/61 ... view-panel From last week, so where are the Saints players that week. Someone should discipline the MRP for slacking.

https://www.rugby-league.com/article/61 ... view-panel From last week, so where are the Saints players that week. Someone should discipline the MRP for slacking.

Knowles has been cited numerous times in the last 3 years.
3 majors also.
Jermaine McGilvary ( Hip drop,6 months out)
Chris Aitkens ( Chicken Wing, Salfords last game of season so don’t know how long injured)
Mike Cooper ( Hip drop season out possible career ending)

Philbin and Batchelor we’re lucky to get what they got because of previous records and injuries received not as serious though I’m not sure on Clifford of Hull FC.

That’s why I was banging on about Dudson just being stupid and letting the club and his teammates down. It was 3 matches max but previous record got him 5. It was nowhere near as bad as Flower who hit the Saints guy whilst he was already concussed on ground. Tom Johnstone will play this weekend.

And now walmsley as mastered that art..as well as playing the ball 5 yards forward from where he was tackled

In his defence though, five yards for him is just one step forward.

I've said all I need to say about the actual incident. The ban itself is clearly warped by three things (In that order).

1) The embarassment of the appeal last year. They've treated Saints differently to other clubs all year and this is another clear and obvious inconsistency with other decisions in the same match and others this weekend
2) The injury and Paul Cullen's relationship to Cooper. Typical RFL awkwardness allowing Cullen to be in that position. But the injury is the main drive for the charge. Without the injury, there is no charge for the incident. They have set a precedent now though that injuries are a factor in disciplinary outcomes.
3) His record. 44 citings in 5 years, not 2 years or even 18 months as people are making out. It's not that horrendous a record and if you remove the not-guilties and the silly (But clearly not dangerous) late hits, he's on about 5 charges in 5 years, one of which was the farcical holding the Salford player's arm behind his back last season. A monster he is not, far more reckless and cynical players in the league and in the teams involved in the derby.

Whatever your take on the incident is, I think we can all agree that giving Knowles the same ban as Dudson, who punched a grounded and indefensible player in his head/throat is simply wrong. Consistency and common sense with these decisions is something we'll never see until we get some competent people into the panel and the RFL in general.

I’m getting concerned for Saddened now this is a really testing time for him

You've been reading too much redvee, don't let yourself be convinced by their nonsense. Knowles (and the rest of the Saints squad) has got away with lots that he shouldn't have in the past few seasons. All that's happened is the preferential treatment has ended and now they're facing the same as everyone else. He has previous in terms of some really poor tackles, wasn't it him that injured mcgilvary for 6 months last season? Jow he has injured Cooper for 9-12 months and potentially ended his career, Johnstone didn't even need a HIA yet the same ban. I agree with mcgilvarys tweet that these tackles need to be outlawed.

Dudson was being a prat, be was hardly trying to maim Johnstone, but it was absolutely stupid, he's lucky that his actions didn't cost us the match on Saturday, but now he sits out for 5 weeks and so he still let's the club down big time.

I too had briefly thought karetaker had gone mad, but he's just quoting Saddened on RedVee

That makes waaaaaaay more sense. Not the sentiment and content, that still makes no sense at all, but the origin of the content makes more sense.

That post just comes across as the ravings of a madman. I saw a redvee fb post trying to claim the disallowed try for a knock on was incorrect and it was grounded because downward pressure came from the forearm, forget the ball had been spilled and touched the ground before the forearm made contact, so it was a knock on.

It’s not about a player dragging another along it’s about the tackling player deliberately leaving the ground and putting undue pressure on the leg(s) of the player being tackled. Knowles had no reason to take the actions that he did in fact, if he had kept his feet in contact with the ground he could just as easily have effected the tackle.