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| Playing RL is a job, if i was caught either possessing it, taking it, or it showing up on a test in my job i would be sacked.
He's lucky it's only 2 years, I'm not completely holier than thou as when i was a teenager i had Cannabis/Speed and Ecstasy and i put that down to the invincible nature and naivety of being a teenager, when i started working/turned 18 i turned to just alcohol and hammered it for 3 years then gave up every drug including caffeine for 9 years 3 of which were job related, now i eat chocolate have a cup of tea or a can of Pepsi and the occasional (event) beer in moderation but i don't take drugs because i know that
a) it's not good for me
b) I'll lose my job
Hock knew what he was doing was wrong and he knew the consequences of being caught so now he should just face up to it and wait until the punishment has been served at the end of 2 years and not a day before.
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| Quote: Steve51 "Perhaps we can add to Yed's lists with a smacked off your tits 13'"
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| So much for the family image of RL. Yes kids, take cocaine no problem, we will always welcome you back with open arms.
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| I'm on the fence. One one side, Hock has been out of the game for almost 2 years and lost lots of money, added to this is the fact he is barely literate and not the sharpest.
On the other side, cocaine is a performance enhancing drug (about the same as a cup of coffee) and is illegal. The fact this is known and so was the penalty then the 2 year ban without parole is fair.
However, the varying shades of illegality in drugs is frustrating. Cocaine isn't really a performance enhancer, so has little impact on sport. Cannabis is illegal, but when legalised has been shown to reduce overall drug use. Alcohol is legal, but is probably one of the most damaging drugs to society out there. Less that 100 years ago drugs like cocaine were available from retail outlets such as Harrods and with chemical concoctions that are highly damaging being imported then I wonder if the more natural drugs are better as legal, controlled and tax revenue rather than criminal pockets.
Anyway, with 2% of the population taking cocaine, do I really think that banning RL players for 2 years would make a difference? Try the test with a legal drug, would banning players from drinking alcohol make YOU drink less?
Back when I played, there were plenty of posters around training which listed what you could and couldn't take from Night Nurse to Cocaine. I then think about players like Cuningham, clearly not stupid but got a suspended 2 year ban because the club "doctor" said it was OK but clearly got some benefit from the drugs and continued to play. If only all clubs could employ quacks and get away with this?
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| that cunningham situation is pretty unique though.
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| Quote: jdrocket "As a trained medical professional, you should know they are well over 2000 deaths a year. (Thousands) and are growing at between 10 and 20% each year.
A simple Google search would suffice.
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| Quote: Yedâ„¢ "I remember the Leah Betts story in the paper and her dad(bless him) going round schools teaching the dangers/evils of ecstasy.
Now i'm no defender of drugs but it was just plain lies, the amount of deaths from actually taking ecstasy are in the single figures every year + the deaths are usually a result of either dehydration or hyponatremia not the drug itself.'"
back on the irony debate, is it ironic that her mother was a drugs worker and her father a copper?
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| Quote: SLIMply the best "back on the irony debate, is it ironic that her mother was a drugs worker and her father a copper?'"
You agree with my summary of ecstasy ?
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| Quote: Yedâ„¢ "You agree with my summary of ecstasy ?'" i do apart from the rare cases of anaphalactic (sic) shock that do occasionally happen and kill, your right, dehydration or the use of other substances on top are the main cause. more people die from peanut allergies than ecstasy! don't mean to say i advise people to take it.
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| If his name was Joe Smith and he came from and played for Barrow no-one would give a toss.
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| Quote: carmont is king "If his name was Joe Smith and he came from and played for Barrow no-one would give a toss.'"
Yes they would give a toss (just tweeking the debate slightly off topic...do you think Championship players get treated the same as SL players in disciplinary matters... NO THEY DON'T. They get much tougher sentences....back on topic now..)
Take your persecution complex, and begger off
He's broken the laws of the game.
He's been given a sentence.
He should serve every day of it. End of
If the Pies want to let him back into training sessions, then that's their funeral. It just doesn't send out a great message to young/vulnerable people, who hold Hock in high esteem.
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| Quote: carmont is king "If his name was Joe Smith and he came from and played for Barrow no-one would give a toss.'"
if it was Joe Smith from barrow his club would have probably sacked him.
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| Ah well, as long as you're having a go at Wigan at least you're leaving everyone else alone.
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| Quote: carmont is king "Ah well, as long as you're having a go at Wigan at least you're leaving everyone else alone.'"
....another resident of Thicknesse Avenue, Wigan.
...as I said, persecution complex
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