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| Quote: TheButcher "As he is under 22 when his contract expires, if Salford offer him an improved contract than the one he is on, he is NOT classed as a free agent and they can demand a fee. So maybe not...'"
Very true and it is a fixed formula that anybody can see on the RFL website. Myler's fee would be about £10k; I think we could stretch to that.
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| Quote: Herb Narvo "Very true and it is a fixed formula that anybody can see on the RFL website. Myler's fee would be about £10k; I think we could stretch to that.'"
Quote: Herb Narvo "COMPENSATION FORMULA
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| I reckon the fee for Myler will be approx £200k.
And for the record he is coming to the wire as he wants to play under tony smith, that is the draw as far as the lad is concerned.
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| Quote: The Growler "I reckon the fee for Myler will be approx £200k.
And for the record he is coming to the wire as he wants to play under tony smith, that is the draw as far as the lad is concerned.'" ]
spoken to Myler I take it and he's personally told you he is coming to the wire and wants to be coached by Tony Smith....
Instead of guessing I will wait to see what is announced personally, you may be right in what you said but no one can be certain of whats happening unless your name is Myler or Offiah
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| Quote: The Growler "I reckon the fee for Myler will be approx £200k.
And for the record he is coming to the wire as he wants to play under tony smith, that is the draw as far as the lad is concerned.'"
Lets not kid ourselves if he is coming to us its because we have cash and neither Leeds or Saints are in the market for a halfback
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| Quote: RyanWire "Lets not kid ourselves if he is coming to us its because we have cash and neither Leeds or Saints are in the market for a halfback'"
The lad will get the cash even if he stays at the willows.
Cash aint the issue. Myler has indicated that he wants to ply his trade under tony smith.
If tony smith was coach of wigan then the lad would be going to Wigan, simple as
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| Quote: The Growler "The lad will get the cash even if he stays at the willows.
Cash aint the issue. Myler has indicated that he wants to ply his trade under tony smith.
If tony smith was coach of wigan then the lad would be going to Wigan, simple as
If given a straight choice of anywhere he would be at Leeds or Saints but this isnt going to happen as Leeds dont need him and Saints have a couple of bright young halfbacks so wont splash cash for the same thing.
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| Quote: RyanWire "If given a straight choice of anywhere he would be at Leeds or Saints but this isnt going to happen as Leeds dont need him and Saints have a couple of bright young halfbacks so wont splash cash for the same thing.'"
He would only want to go to saints or leeds if tony smith was coach.
Trust me ryan, Myler wants to play for tony smith.
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| Quote: Herb Narvo "Very true and it is a fixed formula that anybody can see on the RFL website. Myler's fee would be about £10k; I think we could stretch to that.'"
You've forgotten this part of the formulaC1Where a Club has signed a Player and either Club believes it can show good cause
why the Compensation Formula does not apply in which case the determination isbinding;
(b) Where a Club wishes to sign a Player and believes it can show good cause why
the Compensation Formula does not apply and wishes to request a Conditional
Compensation hearing in which case the Club wishing to sign the Player can
decide whether to accept the determination;
(c) Where a Player in receipt of a Compensation Valuation believes he can shown
good cause why the valuation of Compensation made by his former Club does not
apply in which case the determination is estimated and not binding.
CONDITIONAL COMPENSATION
C1(i) in assessing the level of compensation, the Operational Rules Tribunal shall take into
account
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Basically, it shows that the £10k as a contract-expired player would not be acceptable and the compensation fee would therefore be decided by Tribunal. Based on potential, etc, it would be considerably more.
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| Quote: Man in Madrid "
Basically, it shows that the £10k as a contract-expired player would not be acceptable and the compensation fee would therefore be decided by Tribunal. Based on potential, etc, it would be considerably more.'"
Actually what this tries to do is re-dress a club where it has developed a junior player - hence reference to time he has been at the club etc.
They would take into account that you got him from Widnes for nothing because Widnes were on the edge of oblivion and could not offer him a contract.
There is no way Salford would risk going to a tribunal with Myler. If he doesn't sign a new deal this year (which personally I would consider un-likely) Salford will sell to teh highest bidder - which I believe would be Warrington if they want him. I cannot believe we wouldn't want him.
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| Quote: Herb Narvo "Actually what this tries to do is re-dress a club where it has developed a junior player - hence reference to time he has been at the club etc.
They would take into account that you got him from Widnes for nothing because Widnes were on the edge of oblivion and could not offer him a contract.
There is no way Salford would risk going to a tribunal with Myler. If he doesn't sign a new deal this year (which personally I would consider un-likely) Salford will sell to teh highest bidder - which I believe would be Warrington if they want him. I cannot believe we wouldn't want him.'"
They'd also take into account his age, increased development and potential whilst at Salford, the fact that he gained representative honours whilst at Salford - would certainly be considerably more than the £10k you stated.
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| Quote: Man in Madrid "They'd also take into account his age, increased development and potential whilst at Salford, the fact that he gained representative honours whilst at Salford - would certainly be considerably more than the £10k you stated.'"
Potential, it can go either way upto a determining point. I think Myler is still a fair way from that point. A lot has been made of Myler's inclusion for the two French games, but I see that as a learning curve, not anything more.
I do think he has a great deal of potential, but he stll has a long way to go to realise it.
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| Quote: Man in Madrid "They'd also take into account his age, increased development and potential whilst at Salford, the fact that he gained representative honours whilst at Salford - would certainly be considerably more than the £10k you stated.'"
More than £10k but considerably less than what they could realise the coming close season. Salford are in the position Warrington were in with Harris and Sculthorpe ie not in a position to refuse a hard cash offer.
Salford did exceptional business to pick him up when they did. He was by far the stand-out performer in youth rugby at his age (hat-trick against the Aussies) and already had first grade experience at 17. He slipped under the radar of plenty of clubs who must now be kicking themselves, although top be fair I don't remember much of a clamour from people on here saying we should have signed him at the time.
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| Quote: getdownmonkeyman "Potential, it can go either way upto a determining point. I think Myler is still a fair way from that point. A lot has been made of Myler's inclusion for the two French games, but I see that as a learning curve, not anything more.
I do think he has a great deal of potential, but he stll has a long way to go to realise it.'"
I agree. His defence is still pretty suspect, and he has a lot to learn about the game. There have been many players of his age that have had the potential yet not fulfilled it - as a Wire supporter, you would possibly class Penny in that category. Luke Robinson was the best thing since sliced bread for a while, but has not reached the heights expected.
I'd love us to keep hold of him, and build a team around him as he develops, but I fear it will be difficult. However, and no disrespect to Warrington, I don't believe Wire are the team he should go to. They will want instant results, and as he has not yet fulfilled the potential, it may be too much pressure on him.
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| Quote: The Growler "He would only want to go to saints or leeds if tony smith was coach.
Trust me ryan, Myler wants to play for tony smith.'"
So lets say Tony Smith amazingly became coach of Halifax (or any lower league club) and he would sign for them over us or Leeds?
Assumedly when he signs it will only be for the length of contract Smith has. 2 years?
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