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Quote: Lefty "Congratulations.'"


Thanks. What for?

So what I mean is, while Clarke maybe a slightly better hooker than Moore or McIlorum, both have shown great potential for the future and will almost certainly be better number 9's than Clarke has ever been. Therefore they would be ideal signings for us. Diskin is just genuinely a better player.

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Clarke is a steady eddy IMO, he does evrything pretty well, i just think he lacks that X factor needed to be a top hooker.

His distribution from dummy half is accurate but a bit slow for me. and his dummy half running is a bit Embarassing.

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Quote: Lefty "I have my reservations about all(well other than Morley) players. I do for certain though rate Clarke as a better hooker than Higham.'"


Me too.

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Quote: Lefty "I have my reservations about all(well other than Morley) players. I do for certain though rate Clarke as a better hooker than Higham.'"


Having seen both players at Wigan & less fequently at Warrington, I'd say your correct.

However, an impact hooker is unofficially it's own position & Higham is one of the best in Super League.

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Quote: Wires71 "I didn't think you would bite Lefty
I'm not defending him without reason. People are blinded by a couple of scoots here and there. When in regards to the whole game Clarke has more of an impact on it. He is a great communicator and passer of the ball. The reason why Carvell and Morley play so well is on the back of his distribution.

He gets an unfair amount of citicism on here and always has. He is a much better all round player than Higham as well. Slots in at loose and at half back when needed.

If I was given the choice to pick one or the other now I know who I would pick.

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Quote: FireWire "Thanks. What for?

So what I mean is, while Clarke maybe a slightly better hooker than Moore or McIlorum, both have shown great potential for the future and will almost certainly be better number 9's than Clarke has ever been. Therefore they would be ideal signings for us. Diskin is just genuinely a better player.'"


Diskin is not a better player. At all.

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Quote: Lefty "Diskin is not a better player. At all.'"


Agree Diskin is a decent first team hooker. Why Leeds signed Danny Budures I don't know???

Smith should try and get him at Wire if he can offload Clarke.

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Quote: FireWire "I'd have any of those ahead of Clarke, apart from maybe Newton because of his age.'"


Newton is by far the most talented player on that list and by some margin. If he could have curbed his discipline problems he definately had the potential to be in the same bracket as Cunningham.

Clarke is on a similar level to Diskin IMO whilst both are streets ahead of Mcclorum and Moore

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Quote: Lefty "I'm not defending him without reason. People are blinded by a couple of scoots here and there. When in regards to the whole game Clarke has more of an impact on it. He is a great communicator and passer of the ball. The reason why Carvell and Morley play so well is on the back of his distribution.

He gets an unfair amount of citicism on here and always has. He is a much better all round player than Higham as well. Slots in at loose and at half back when needed.

If I was given the choice to pick one or the other now I know who I would pick.'"


Fair enough, valid views. Why do you think he is the target for the criticism?

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Quote: Wires71 "Fair enough, valid views. Why do you think he is the target for the criticism?'"


Because he isn't good enough that's why.

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Because he is not Keiron Cunningham Or James Roby.

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Quote: Wedge>Anderson "Newton is by far the most talented player on that list and by some margin. If he could have curbed his discipline problems he definately had the potential to be in the same bracket as Cunningham.

Clarke is on a similar level to Diskin IMO whilst both are streets ahead of Mcclorum and Moore'"


I agree Newton is the best of the bunch, but never in the same league as Cunningham. I was talking about ideally who we would have as hooker now. I would rather have Scott Moore or McIlorum than Clarke tied up until 2011, as TS could mould them into top quality hookers able to serve us for years to come.

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Quote: Lefty "I'm not defending him without reason. People are blinded by a couple of scoots here and there. When in regards to the whole game Clarke has more of an impact on it. He is a great communicator and passer of the ball. The reason why Carvell and Morley play so well is on the back of his distribution.
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Just continuing the debate, I think to dismiss Higham's contribution as "a couple of scoots here and there" do him a disservice. The statistics are impressive and I know we look more menacing in attack with Higham on the field. I would be interested to hear your views on which attributes you believe Higham to be stronger than Clarke.

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Quote: Wires71 "Just continuing the debate, I think to dismiss Higham's contribution as "a couple of scoots here and there" to him a disservice. The statistics are impressive and I know we look more menacing in attack with Higham on the field. I would be interested to hear your views on which attributes you believe Higham to be stronger than Clarke.'"


Higham without doubt has an extra yard of pace on Clarke. Therefore when he spots a hole in the line he more often than not gets through it. He also is a better marker defender than Clarke. That seems to be an area we have improved this year and I put a lot of that down to him. Other than that I am struggling.

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Also can I just add. I like Higham in his current role and I am glad he is at the club. I just don't think he is a better player than Clarke and I would rather have Clarke if I had to choose.

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