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Quote: rubber duckie "
Quote: rubber duckie "Ratchford 18th man'"

Nicholson.'"


For some reason Ratchford was replaced by Nicholson as 18th man according to commentator.

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An entertaining game. Some backbone shown. Pack needs bolstering with some big bodies. Plenty to work on and remember we are building from a very low base. We have got into the poor state over years, will take a few seasons to get out of it.

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Ps please can we sign McMeeken

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Quote: Captain Hook "So just to be clear, we now aren’t going to win everything this year?
I think your reaction shows you have been expecting too much too soon'"

I never bet against my own team.
Wire to win the double.

But we were still dog e for 35 mins of that game.

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Quote: ninearches "For some reason Ratchford was replaced by Nicholson as 18th man according to commentator.'"

Clerical miscommunication.
Nicholson was always 18th man.
He was the standby in case Currie’s missus went into labour.
Ratchford wasn’t particularly ideal to cover for that scenario, although he’d stick his hand up and would have had a go.
But Ratchford is only around 14 to 14.5 stone.

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Ratchford to right centre all day long, hopefully Bullock is back next week or we're really short on forwards, and Wood can't come back as he has another Week with Bradford.

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Disappointed to see 18 points shipped in so early in the game and how easy it was for Catalan to score them.. once again Dufty ducking out of a catchable ball it’s becoming an embarrassment for us.. Hayes will be a mainstay in this wire team for years to come..couple of positives to take this game.. very much a work in progress under Burgess but am liking some of work and improvement we are seeing in this team.. plus keep drip feeding the young lads into the first team..

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Quote: rubber duckie "I never bet against my own team.
Wire to win the double.

But we were still dog poop for 35 mins of that game.'"
Less said about your predictions the better.Bonkers.

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The quick loss of 3 early tries was really poor with Vaughan of all people responsible for much of the self inflicted damage. However perhaps I am in a small minority in thinking this is a much better side than we have had for a couple of years ? The side never gave up, and the level of effort was very high. The one worrying area is defence with lots of very poor mistakes. In contrast our attack is improving quickly; we don't look like headless chickens anymore when we get close to the opposition line. We are certainly short of some weight and quality in the pack, but Burgess will already know this and will be waiting for an opportunity to bring someone in.

On this showing Im encouraged with what Burgess has managed to achieve but it's still very much a work in progress. We have one specialist attack coach but I think I would bring in someone to sort out the defence. Catalan looked much better organised than us in this respect.

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Quote: Winslade's Offload "The quick loss of 3 early tries was really poor with Vaughan of all people responsible for much of the self inflicted damage. However perhaps I am in a small minority in thinking this is a much better side than we have had for a couple of years ? The side never gave up, and the level of effort was very high. The one worrying area is defence with lots of very poor mistakes. In contrast our attack is improving quickly; we don't look like headless chickens anymore when we get close to the opposition line. We are certainly short of some weight and quality in the pack, but Burgess will already know this and will be waiting for an opportunity to bring someone in.

On this showing Im encouraged with what Burgess has managed to achieve but it's still very much a work in progress. We have one specialist attack coach but I think I would bring in someone to sort out the defence. Catalan looked much better organised than us in this respect.'"


My thoughts exactly. We look like a side that will eventually be competitive in all games, and we didn't panic despite being poor in the opening 10 minutes and stuck to the processes. We seem like a side who can slot people in and out without it disrupting us too much.

We definitely look underweight and need more go-forward, as we got steamrollered all match. We need to sort that defence out too. My only criticism of Burgess is that he dropped Wrench too soon, as Tai looked like a schoolboy trying to tackle in the first half. I think Wrench would be far more creative too with better hands, at this stage of the season anyway.

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Quote: Winslade's Offload "The quick loss of 3 early tries was really poor with Vaughan of all people responsible for much of the self inflicted damage. However perhaps I am in a small minority in thinking this is a much better side than we have had for a couple of years ? The side never gave up, and the level of effort was very high. The one worrying area is defence with lots of very poor mistakes. In contrast our attack is improving quickly; we don't look like headless chickens anymore when we get close to the opposition line. We are certainly short of some weight and quality in the pack, but Burgess will already know this and will be waiting for an opportunity to bring someone in.

On this showing Im encouraged with what Burgess has managed to achieve but it's still very much a work in progress. We have one specialist attack coach but I think I would bring in someone to sort out the defence. Catalan looked much better organised than us in this respect.'"


I think it is a better side than the last few years but we were really bad. The side seems to have spirit and character but we were out muscled in the pack. We are something like 4th / 5th / 6th best side in the competition.

Marshall was appointed as defensive coach under Daryl Powell. (https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ri ... warrington). Whatever he is doing did not work yesterday. We did not look solid at all, look easily stripped for numbers and very vulnerably under a high ball.

Some players need to be on the tackle bags all week (Ashton for one, his attempt was shocking).
Quote: Winslade's Offload "The quick loss of 3 early tries was really poor with Vaughan of all people responsible for much of the self inflicted damage. However perhaps I am in a small minority in thinking this is a much better side than we have had for a couple of years ? The side never gave up, and the level of effort was very high. The one worrying area is defence with lots of very poor mistakes. In contrast our attack is improving quickly; we don't look like headless chickens anymore when we get close to the opposition line. We are certainly short of some weight and quality in the pack, but Burgess will already know this and will be waiting for an opportunity to bring someone in.

On this showing Im encouraged with what Burgess has managed to achieve but it's still very much a work in progress. We have one specialist attack coach but I think I would bring in someone to sort out the defence. Catalan looked much better organised than us in this respect.'"


I think it is a better side than the last few years but we were really bad. The side seems to have spirit and character but we were out muscled in the pack. We are something like 4th / 5th / 6th best side in the competition.

Marshall was appointed as defensive coach under Daryl Powell. (https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ri ... warrington). Whatever he is doing did not work yesterday. We did not look solid at all, look easily stripped for numbers and very vulnerably under a high ball.

Some players need to be on the tackle bags all week (Ashton for one, his attempt was shocking).


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Quote: Bobby Digital " Dufty ducking out of a catchable ball it’s becoming an embarrassment for us'"


That was terrible. He tried to take it to avoid contact and set up an attack I think by offsetting his body outside the ball and trying to catch it from the side, but missed the ball completely. Stupid play.

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With 2 props (at least) missing next week v Leeds I expect Bullock will come in but is Wood tied to another week at Bradford? If so I wonder whether we'll rotate Currie and Crowther in a propping role. Crowther did cover prop yesterday for a while.

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Quote: Wires71 "Some players need to be on the tackle bags all week (Ashton for one, his attempt was shocking).'"


Jeez. One poor tackle. Will this be harked on about for years like his two errors in the cup a few years back?

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Quote: Wires71 "An entertaining game. Some backbone shown. Pack needs bolstering with some big bodies. Plenty to work on and remember we are building from a very low base. We have got into the poor state over years, will take a few seasons to get out of it.'"

Very much this, yes it was a bad start but we clawed our way back into a game that was almost dead and buried and could conceivably have got embarrassing.

In the last 15 minutes we had them on then ropes and they were wobbling, especially when we were shifting it out left. When we brought vaughan back on we went route 1 again

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