Some balls would make a difference. I hate them with a passion but a fraction of rhe desire and grit Saints showed to keep their line intact last night would be a start.

Wilkin rightly calling out desire and will in defence.

There is little team spirit or collective will. Things obviously not completely sorted behind the scenes.

As a woeful first half I’ve watched all season.

Can't wait for this season to end

Unable to watch it but no excuse for lack of effort. Very disappointing, especially after last week.

Imagine early 2023 season and we are exactly the same. That would be a kick to the balls for sure.

Yeah 100%, the focus should be on winning more than Tolouse now. Genuinely the weirdest and most frustrating season i've ever seen

I no longer recognise this Wire team, i can't identify with, tolerate or like players who seem to be almost taking industrial action in protest against some perceived wrongdoing.

What I do know is the excuses from the players and coaches have now run out for me. You're supposed to be in it together - no-one expects you to be The Waltons or to be planning romantic getaways in each others company but, for goodness sakes stop giving the rest of SL ammo to shoot at you, laugh at you and humiliate the club with.

I've not heard many excuses from players. We have heard after virtually every game excuses and criticism from the coach. It is his job to manage the players. For me, I've had enough of him blaming everyone but himself. It is his responsibility to manage, coach, encourage, develop, discipline. We've heard a lot about the last one, sorting bad apples etc. If there are any left, or were many anyway, he's not helping to improve the team's performance after a full pre season and a good chunk of the season already gone. For the good of the club a change is needed.

Powell’s just said they need to go on a run and win about 5-6 games.Wilkin and Barrie Mac just looked at each other and said no chance.

Bloody Coopers fault.

Clearly its Jon Clarks......simples

Not playing for DP, it’s obvious.

I am inclined to write today off as an anomaly (I know, not actually an anomaly in result). The second half shown there is a decent team in there somewhere, but the first half I think we got spooked.

It happened with Cullen to a point, he would get so revved up for a particular game, the one either side would get away from us. We needed the win last week, and got it. Credit where it’s due, we are now in a comfortable position and can sort the mess out to avoid any hangover into next year.

Still, for what it’s worth, the excuses are over. 3 of todays 17 are ‘legacy’ players without Powell’s sign off. The excuses stop, there must be some improvement soon behaviourally.

Really agree with this. Whether it's Powell's fault or not, there is no excuse for lack of effort on a rugby pitch and it does seem that players are protesting.

Its either this or some weird lack of confidence which is manifesting into what is perceived as lack of effort. Its very apparent with out of form footballers who try too hard, make mistakes, and in doing so, apply more pressure to themselves and get scared to make a mistake and therefore avoid committing.

It really is baffling.

But, at least is wasn't 80 minutes of crap, there were some good patches and we did show up in the second (albeit thanks to a red card).