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Quote: Or thane "I liked what i've seen of him and think he's clearly got alot of skill and talent. Be a shame if he does missthe first 7-8 games but hopefully will see what he can do as the season progresses. Not saying he's amazing but i like the look of what i've seen and think he will do well for us
I’ve only seen the games available on YouTube, but he does seem to read a game well. If we are indeed going with a more skilful approach, then I like the look of him too. There aren’t many 13s around like that in SL. I’d also be happy with Currie there I think. Maybe that’s how Powell is going. Hughes and Holmes, with Currie locking?

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Quote: The Speculator "Philbin forgotten or deliberately omitted?'"


Forgotten, would prefer him off the bench though.

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Quote: easyWire "I’ve only seen the games available on YouTube, but he does seem to read a game well. If we are indeed going with a more skilful approach, then I like the look of him too. There aren’t many 13s around like that in SL. I’d also be happy with Currie there I think. Maybe that’s how Powell is going. Hughes and Holmes, with Currie locking?'"

I have been thinking about Currie at 13. I don’t know enough about the technicalities to have an informed opinion (but that has never stopped me) but it struck me that he should be able to play a similar role to Sculthorpe (P!). Is there any technical reason why he can’t?

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Quote: Captain Hook "Is there any technical reason why he can’t?'"


I’m pretty sure he played there regularly at academy level? I think Walter Wizard would have more info about that. I think he’s a lot more creative than we’ve seen under Price. Even Sculthorpe would have looked like a simple, strong-running second row under Price.

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Quote: easyWire " Hughes and Holmes, with Currie locking?'"


Lock - now there's a term I've not seen for a while!

I agree that Currie at 13 could work well (although as Captain says - Im no expert on the attributes for a good 13).
I like ball playing creative 13's rather than props playing at 13.
Sculthorpe and Tewera Nikau spring to mind.
Philbin is not and will never be a 13. By contrast Ben Harrison was decent because he could play a bit rather than just 'take it up' as a prop.

So from my earlier 'I havent a clue who will be in the team' post Im now clear on 1 to 9.
2nd prop and the rest of the pack and subs are less clear.
I think Philbs will take 10 and probably Currie, Holmes and Hughes the rest of the pack.
The bench will partly depend on the opposition, but generally I expect Walker to be there with Clark, Bullock, Magoulis and Mulhern if everyone is fit. (Yes I know, 5 but I cant make my mind up).

Injuries will take their toll.
If a back is injured I can see Thewlis and Minikin being 1st port of call, with Wrench under consideration.
In the halves, then Ratch would step up, Dean in reserve.
If a forward is injured then one of the 5 above plus Davis (tough call on him missing the 17), Wrench, Lonstaff and Butler.

That covers it.

With the type of play I think Powell will promote, I hope it will mitigate our lack of depth in the prop department.

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Quote: fez1 "
With the type of play I think Powell will promote, I hope it will mitigate our lack of depth in the prop department.'"


This is what I’m hoping for, too.

Of course, I’d love a Hill standard player to complement Cooper, but maybe that’s not as critical if we aren’t a Price type team.

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Magoulias confirmed to miss the first 4-5 rounds so i'm expecting to see hughes at 13 from the start.

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Quote: Or thane "Magoulias confirmed to miss the first 4-5 rounds so i'm expecting to see hughes at 13 from the start.'"


I thought that I read somewhere that Hughes was touch and go as to whether he'd make the first couple of rounds due to a hand injury / surgery?

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Quote: easyWire "I’m pretty sure he played there regularly at academy level? I think Walter Wizard would have more info about that. I think he’s a lot more creative than we’ve seen under Price. Even Sculthorpe would have looked like a simple, strong-running second row under Price.'"



Hi EW; it is funny you should ask this question as I was talking about BC with Rich Marshall on Wednesday and he was saying about when BC was coming through the Under 20s he played him at loose forward and stand off as he had fantastic hands and his ability meant he could cover virtually any position.

I would say that second row is his best position now though!!!

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1. Ratchford
2. Ashton
3. Mata’utia
4. King
5. Charnley
6. Widdop
7. Williams
8. Cooper
9. Clark
10.bullock
11.Currie
12.Hughes
13.holmes
14.Philbin
15. Mulhern
16. Magoulis
17.Walker


Thewlis n longstaff should get ample game time and there will we will have competition for places too from others

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Quote: Dezzies_right_hook "
10.bullock
11.Currie
12.Hughes
13.holmes
14.Philbin
15. Mulhern
16. Magoulis
17.Walker
Thewlis n longstaff should get ample game time and there will we will have competition for places too from others too.'"


Is Bullock injured or recovering from an op?

I see no J.Clark there, but with Magoulis out I can definately see him being in the 17.

Why Holmes at 13? I suppose if he played in his usual position it would mean a move for Currie and potentially Hughes.

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Quote: fez1 "Is Bullock injured or recovering from an op?

I see no J.Clark there, but with Magoulis out I can definately see him being in the 17.

Why Holmes at 13? I suppose if he played in his usual position it would mean a move for Currie and potentially Hughes.'"


I was going with the idea of all fully fit strongest 17.

Holmes at 13 would be similar to Harrison (minus size) ay 13 could be used to run the ball in buy also has the hands and brains to have moves and plays set around him. He hits gaps well so can see opportunities. It keeps Currie at second row with Hughes. I know that he has his knockers myself included but workrate and reliability are also needed in the team and he has that sprinkle a bit of Powelldust on and who knows

. I like longstaff and thewlis plus Dean and wrench but don't see the rush to get them in the team just because they are young and have been a shining light in what's been a dull few seasons. How will they compare with the "experianced" pros under a new regime if Powell can get our team playing and motivated will they stand out as much ? I think thewlis n longstaff would still be able to play and not see a drop in performance.

Magoulis, he has to earn his place in the team, not an experianced NRL player not really a big money signing a speculative on that could pay off, he could be starting loose with Holmes on the bench...

I was underwhelmed initially at the signings matautia and Harrison were 2 ones I was ok with, however IF Powell has the effect of improving players and getting the best out of the TEAM available then it is not as bad as I thought. An awful lot of the hope is based on the Powell effect, building a team, and improving key individuals then we could well be surprised, bullock Harrison are interesting pair Harrison has looked better than championship when I've seen him and is a very good speculative signing, I think that next season is when we will start to see the best of him now tho. How bullock turns out will be key I think if Powell can get him playing to his size and ability he will become our starting forward it's all .IFS and buts until the season starts and we see the 1st team selection.

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Yes, I can see your logic there Dezzie.

We do seem to have decent players quite far down the playing roster which is good to see.
Lets hope Coops manages to stay injury free. The fact we could have Philbin, Bullock or Mulhern starting shows we've no 'Hill' type figure. I'm still disappointed we couldn't reach agreement to keep him.

Looking forward to the 1st match now, and not before time! Im usually chomping at the bit in early Jan, but last year just seemed to 'limp by'.
Things needed to be freshened up in the coaching department.
Still find it strange how sport appears to be different to most other professions where typically continuity is seen as a positive.

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Spotted the injured players in the gym this morning going about their rehab. I see Toby King is part of the injured group now anyone know what the issue is

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