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Quote: Willzay "Sorry to say but your bench options are awful, and for me that's the root of your problems. The starting 13 don't have any competition.'"


I don't think it is. For me, your coach comes across as one of the most uninspiring people I have seen in charge of a Super League team. How on earth he expects his team to respond and get sparked up with his utter dullness is a mystery. I don't say this with any degree of arrogance because Aussie coaches are a lottery, but when you see someone like Holbrook interviewed you can feel how connected he is to the players and the outcome - his enthusiasm rubs off and you can see that watching him in the stands. Your guy looks like an angry man who doesn't quite know any other way.

Tony Smith may have been past his sell by for sure but I am not sure you have picked a leader in Steve Price.

On the plus side I do think there's some improvement in you over last night, as indeed we are likely to drop off at some point. It is still very early with lots of new signings and a new coach.

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Price was a bizarre appointment in the first place. Just seeing what the St George fans had to say on him said it all never mind his appalling record with them. He couldn’t sound any more miserable as well. It might only be early on in the season and you might have a thin squad but if I was a Wire fan I’d be expecting a lot better at this stage, not the 5 drives and a high kick to the corner.

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Quote: Saddened! "I was quietly worried about tonight, seeing the way you ground out a result against Wigan at home, I feared we might be headed for the same. At half time I knew we'd win. You had so much pressure tonight, so many repeat sets in and around our 20 and you could have played till the Summer holidays and not scored from open play. Our defense is pretty solid at the moment, Holbrook has got that side sorted it seems, but still, your attacking play was so predictable, so slow and so easy to defend against. We weren't great tonight, arguably our worst half of the season in the first half. Ben Barba had probably his quietest game of the season but still had the quality when it mattered with the double pump to send Atkins into Dominos looking for the first pass. Luke Thompson and Dom Peyroux probably the best two forwards on the field, both having sensational games.

You probably won't like me saying this, but your whole club reminds me of Saints under Cunningham. The crowd was there, but silent throughout, despondent and resigned to the inevitable. When the Wire have a chance of winning the place can be bouncing, you didn't get into the game at all. Like Cunningham's Saints you are trying to be solid defensively and grind it out by playing percentages. But again like Cunningham's Saints you don't look fit, you are making mistakes in defense, giving needless penalties away and not gelling in attack. Give it another month and then force the club into making changes, make yourselves heard, demand change.

As for individual performances from Warrington tonight I thought Cooper did really well. He stood up to our pack, when the likes of Crosby and Hill in particular were hiding. Benny tried his best, but he's struggling now. Brown, Ratchford and Roberts all very poor. What separates Saints and Wire at the moment and probably in general is the quality of our young players. Luke Thompson was the best player on the pitch today, Matty Lees not looking out of place either and Richardson's development v Dec Patton's another comparison that doesn't make great reading for your development of young prospects. Wire's young players just don't seem to kick on and develop. I had thought Livett would be a top player, but another one who struggled tonight to get into the game, Philbin doing nothing bar running in at third man with his shoulder. The King brothers, who should both be at Batley or Oldham by now, why are they still in your team? Still, not the end of the world. SL is pants and even with that squad you're still in with a shout of the top 4, or you should be.

One thing that worried me tonight was Daryl Clark. I appreciate you don't have a backup hooker, but he clearly got a pretty decent knock to the head. He looked like he was on a three day bender in Blackpool after that, he dropped the ball two out of the next three times he got the ball and looked ill for the rest of the game. Surely he should have at least gone off to be tested?'"



I think its a stretch to say we are in with a shout of top 4 ...but factually at least for the moments its correct as we have won one game less than 4th placed leeds....

but everything else you say is absolutely spot on...... icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif

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Just thought I'd give some praise to Benny for last night. He was battering everything in sight for the first quarter before he went off. Nobody else was putting in that level of effort and he continued when he came back on. Quiet on here about his performance but i'm sure when he has an average game next week he'll be picked out for criticism.

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Saddened referrring to the knock to Clark's head where holbrook was fuming at the game being stopped to see how he was? Nice chap. No one was moaning when we had to stop because walmsley can't tackle properly.

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All I can say is wow. A home game and everyone was on here rather than actually, you know, going to the game.

Embarrassing

Regards

King James

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Quote: Lebron James "All I can say is wow. A home game and everyone was on here rather than actually, you know, going to the game.

Embarrassing

Regards

King James'"


Mobile internet it’s called, then again probably not got that in St Helens yet.

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'k me
You've had 23 hours to come up with those pearls of wisdom.
Do you do after dinner speaking?
If he was still alive, Peter Ustinov would be t1ng bricks.
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Quote: karetaker "Mobile internet it’s called, then again probably not got that in St Helens yet.'"

Two Cadbury's drinking chocolate tins and a length of hairy string is considered hi-tech in parts of WA10.
In Parr, they're still pointing at fire and grunting.

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Quote: Lebron James "All I can say is wow. A home game and everyone was on here rather than actually, you know, going to the game.

Embarrassing

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King James'"

bet your a laugh a minute in playground,

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Quote: karetaker "Mobile internet it’s called, then again probably not got that in St Helens yet.'"


You are right. The first thing you do at a game is log on to rlfans. Do Leeds fans do it? Wigan? Saints? No, just Pretend fans obvs

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Quote: sir adrian morley "bet your a laugh a minute in playground,'"

Obvs

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Quote: Lebron James "All I can say is wow. A home game and everyone was on here rather than actually, you know, going to the game.

Embarrassing

Regards

King James'"


You said the other day you don't to games anymore. So you're hardly one to talk.

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Quote: Lebron James "You are right. The first thing you do at a game is log on to rlfans. Do Leeds fans do it? Wigan? Saints? No, just Pretend fans obvs

Regards

King James'"


King of what/who? I have my thoughts but don't want to be banned.

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Quote: Bobby_Peru "King of what?'"

WAN
....bit of Mayoral politics there
My name's Lefty Elton, thank you and good night.

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