Yes I think your right. That was our thought.
King and Atkins were both wingers with centre game time.
Martin Gleeson was the last out and out.
2005?

Atkins has never played on the wing. At Wakefield or Bradford. King was a centre when he came to Warrington. www.rugbyleagueproject.org/playe ... mmary.html

Atkins has never played on the wing. At Wakefield or Bradford. King was a centre when he came to Warrington. www.rugbyleagueproject.org/playe ... mmary.html

Ever since he said 'the performance is more important than the result, every time', I've had my doubts about him. That's the sort of thing coaches of little kids' teams (rightly, in their situation) say. If he doesn't get that he's in a results-driven environment, it's a bit strange. I think he's got a bit too comfortable at Warrington.

I do get the feeling we are trying to make a second-row forward out of every position on the pitch. Not just at Warrington but at most clubs.

I'm beginning to wonder if the Australian way really is the way forward for UK Rugby League. Whilst I'd love to see the national side compete with the structured format of the Aussie team, I have a feeling it's not the best way forward for the domestic game in terms of entertainment and marketing to potential new fans outside the heartlands. Apart from Sandow's X-factor stint for the first few months of last year, what else really wowed the crowds in 2016? A few of Solomona's tries I guess, but nothing could really compare to the entertainment value of 5-10 years previous - Briers, Long, Lyon, Vainikolo, Tomkins et al.

Or am I just looking on the past with rose-tinted spectacles?

I've been saying this for years. Teams trying to build an identikit RL player, that can adapt to nearly any position in the field. Just let a player flourish in his natural position.

Add to this, the infuriating loose forward being used as an auxiliary prop (eg Ben Harrison, when not injured). As far as I know, aren't LF's supposed to be creative?
And the one we (as a nation) did for a decade or so, in the late 90's where Sculthorpe of Farrell would play as a stand off, so we had an extra "tackler" on the pitch. Play people in their proper positions, and do what they're supposed to do.

....and no, easyWire, you aren't looking through rose tinted glasses.

All that glitters ain't (green and) gold.

Yes he has 2012.

Yes because it's clearly untrue. In a final the result is more important that the performance.

He is unassailable at Warrington and in the comfort zone.

Let's see what this season brings. The pre-season and first game do not look promising at all.

That'd make it 5 seasons

I saw one post stating that Chris bridge was better than Martin Gleason LOL

I just didn't bother reading anymore

Regards

King James

Is that Matt King or Toby King?

Toby

I think the discussion about King was Matt rather than Toby. But surely when Toby played for Meltham he was SO rather than SH ?

Once we get to a point of "the taking part is more important than the result" we turn sport into a pastime. The coaches, players and spectator's should be involved in sport to win, nothing else matters!

If TS really is the god that some hold him to he should have refreshed the team instead of handing out extensions to tired players like Atkins, Sims and Gidley. The back line should have had two fast paced wingers, two centres and a full back. Instead we are stuck with the mess we witnessed at Catalan.

Well we have the pack to win everything so I guess you can judge TS on results at the season end, but his shrewdness where margins matter, like selection in finals through injuries I question.