Brad Dwyer too, no?

If you're so confident then how about this.

If George Williams signs for Wire before 1st Jan 2018 I'll donate £50 to your nominated charity.
If George Williams doesn't sign for Wire before 1st Jan 2018 you donate £50 to Joining Jack.

I'll post this on the Wigan board as well so that you don't miss it.

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£50 ... The last of the big spenders. I didn't know things were that bad up north.
If I was a betting man I would have made it £500.

I'm not a betting man (I'm a poor pensioner ) , but I thought this was worth it for charity, particularly Joining Jack.

Ha ha. Good job nobody challenged you £50 to explain why Chris Bridge should have been sent off. Could also challenged you about saying Warrington would go bust on the back of image rights tax ruling or Warrington not being in a position to compete for at least five years because our team was so old with Morley, Monaghan etc.

At the end of the day Rubber Duck posts on here plenty of rumours he hears and to be fair he has a strike rate a lot better than a broken clock. Whether the Brown signing not happening and Williams signing ahead of November 2017 pre-season was his finest moment is very debatable.

You can be pretty sure that Warrington's interest in Williams will have forced the strained finances at the Dave Whelan Stadium to stretch that little bit more than they wanted to.

That's my post of the year by some margin.

Williams leaving Wigan may or may not happen. It certainly won't happen before the end of this coming season.

However, what is certain and undeniable is that Wigan can only have one marquee player and that, at present is NOT Williams. So it IS likely that he will be off somewhere else for 2018 - whether this is Warrington or Leeds or whoever is irrelevant.

And it is this likelihood that makes Wigan fans nervous and defensive. And we would be just the same if it was Currie or similar.

So maybe we can give all the betting talk a rest now.

That's right. It's a failure as we failed to achieve the objective which was to win it. Quite simple really. I saw on one of the Warrington facebook posts that some chap thought this was a "brilliant" season. I think Leeds' 2015 could be described as that, not Wires' 2016.

However, I have not forgotten the past where we would have only dreamt of Wire competing at the level they are currently. We have become a member of the big 4.

Yes really. If we don't win the GF it is outright failure, that is what it is all about.

And how anyone can compare the club to the one from the pre-HJ/ SJM days is beyond me. We are one of the most highly resourced clubs in the game.'"

It's not a failure but to hit only one of the objectives and probably 3Rd choice one at that it's hardly a successful season either.

I'd say it's a season where we arguably underachieved given the side we had. And a team who ground out wins under the adversity of injured players going into most games with 3/4 first team players missing won the grand final!! Not sure if people knew bout the Wigan injuries!!

I hope brown can be that somthing that we lack in tight games where we need an edge in the last 10m area. Not sure I see where the contract length puts the Williams signing for 2018 now tho and where this puts Patton for 2018/9

I think Wigan's method of grinding out wins last season was just that ,a way of winning while pulling the wool over the eyes of opposing teams. They soon found an effective plan B for the play offs & final ,when it was needed.

As for the Wire & silverware ,it is very nice to win a trophy or two, but if the team can entertain me for 30+ games a season i am more than happy.

I think that anyone who comes on here and says last season was a failure is just trying to be argumentative, anyone with any brain cells knows that in a 12 team comp to finish top after 27 games and reach 2 finals is a dam good season. I understand everyone including me wants see wire win the GF, but they are 1 off games and you can not criticise recruitment or coaching ability or player development from 1 match. If Currie stretches over, if Atkins gathers the ball round his ankles, we win the Treble. To be 2 incidents away means we were very close and by far the best team in the league.

You are Tony Smith, and I claim my £5
You cannot criticise recruitment from 1 match. We're not. The season has done that for us. Likewise coaching ability.

We've proved we don't have the gumption or nous, to close big games out, when it matters. This has been evident for 4 years.

We'll NEVER have a better opportunity to win the GF, and we blew it. Take off your P&B tinted glasses, and get up from your Tony Smith duvet, and realise WE LOVED UP, and he's responsible.

Never mind, we go again in February. Same old Wire.

It wasn't a failure, however I consider it extremely disappointing.
I expected far more.