And didn't they do well!

I've always enjoyed a good sing song. I especially like that old folk song about Winky Warrington.

Keep it up lads....and incidentally, when was it Wakefield's year?

1968, which is more recent than Warrington's last league title.

Seriously? I thought Warrington won it a few times in the 70s and early 80s? Weren't they good in the Mike Gregory days?

From a lofty position of least being "Champions" in the 1948, 1954 and 1955 seasons, Wires fans can, at least, comfortably mock Castleford supporters.

During the recent 5 trophy less St Helens years I enjoyed this board... 1 Grand Final win later the trolls are back trying to start their Willy measuring contests..

Mods maybe it's time to bring back a trolling thread after certain games..

He has and on camera.

i also dont think Ratchford will make it as a 6.. As the season goes on, its looking more and more like he isnt a FB either.... as good as he is at running in a broken field, he is a bit jack of all trades, master of none... a victim of his own success in a way.

if he is to play 6 next year, he will need a good organsing HB with a kicking game next to him, because he certainly wont be bringing those qualities to the table.

'It's always your year' song sung by the Wakey, Cas and saints fans on Sunday and over recent years can't possibly be take as it's been more our year over the past 4/5 seasons than those 3 sides combined trophy-wise! Surely we're being paranoid as it's a song sung to recognise and reflect our success, so thanks guys- rugby league fans once again showing great comradeship and respect.

You get the odd saints fan trying to troll, even though it's their first trophy in 7 years. But we all know that the general profile of a typical saints fan is an ignorant mutant Imbecile; inbred within the borders of that embarrassing $hithole called St Helens.

Fair enough. If seen an interview where he mentioned he could either play him in the halfs, or push Ratch up to 6 and play Gidley at full back.

Hadn't seen as interview with him coming out with a definitive position for him. Cheers for that.

Wire fans singing "it's always our year" is one of the most cringeworthy things in sport.

I can't remember many times it's been sung. The last time I can remember was during the playoff semi-final at St Helens. Saints fans started singing 'it's always your year' after going 14-0 up. We stormed back and absolutely steamrolled them so we responded with 'it's always our year'. Some justified banter on that occasion.

I really can't remember it being sung many times. Only in response to opposing fans singing.

At least is doesn't bother you!

As for Warrington, the problem with Warrington is that you don't seem to know your best half back combination. Last year and this, Smith kept chopping and changing. You've never replaced Briers. We had the same problem when Long left. If you're to get back to where you were, I think you'll need to go out and spend big on a half back from the NRL, or possibly move Ratchford to 6, who is quality in a number of positions.

It does bother me. I feel really sorry for St Helens folk.

The more I see of Ratchford, the more convinced I am we should bulk him up and go with him at loose forward next year, with Currie & Grix in the 2nd row and Ben H interchanging at prop.

Whatever Stef's failings, he is STILL the only wildcard player we have (possible exception of Clark when he puts his mind to it) who can introduce doubt into opposition defences, make breaks from nothing and scatter the opposition. Without him our attacking threat would be limited to kicks to the corner for Joel.