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Got to say better than I expected last night. Solid effort

Young lads got a bit of a lesson in the left side, but tried hard. As a team needed to step up Defensively when 10-0 up but failed miserably.

Despite the best efforts, it doesn't hide the fact that it will almost certainly be 1 win in 7 next week.

Concentration now should be ensuring we stay in the 8, not worrying about Top 4 because we're nowhere near it

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Given recent form to stay with 12 of Wigan was a good overall effort. TS had better sharpen his act for next week as 1 in 7 will not be good news for the club and he and Agar will be under scrutiny. Where were the forwards last night they were still not bossing the middle. Much better in the halves, don't get the Ormsby Penny switch? Like the look of King and Currie was much improved as was Bridge, Westwood and Ratch their usual good selves.

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Just watched the game back on Sky.

Bridge looked back to his best in his correct position. Myler also had a strong game (although not many will elude to that on here) & Patton's kicking game was spot on.

But our left edge defense was appalling at times. Although Tompkins & Gelling were very strong, Patton, King & Ormsby will be targeted by every other club after watching that game. TS has much work to do if he's going to persist with picking them. They were slow to move up, were caught out of position 2 or 3 times, & missed or fell off tackles.

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If I'm honest, I didn't expect much from last night. We were better than I thought we'd be though!

I'm not expecting anything against Leeds next week either.

That would leave us at 1 win from 7. Depending on results, we could be as low as 9th at the end of next weeks rounds.

Our remaining fixtures are:

Leeds - A
Widnes - H
Hull FC - H
Salford - A
Saints - Magic
Catalan - H
Hudds - A
Hull KR - A
Wigan - H
Wakey - A
Saints - H
Cas - A

We need to win a minimum of 7 of the above games. Is that possible?

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I think we should be prefectly capable of winning them all apart from the Wigan, Leeds and Saints games.

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We looked devoid of any sort of attacking game in the second half, which was a bit disappointing.

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Quote: Vespid_Wire "If I'm honest, I didn't expect much from last night. We were better than I thought we'd be though!

I'm not expecting anything against Leeds next week either.

That would leave us at 1 win from 7. Depending on results, we could be as low as 9th at the end of next weeks rounds.

Our remaining fixtures are
Widnes - H - Win
Hull FC - H - Win
Salford - A - Could go either way
Saints - Magic - Lose
Catalan - H - Win
Hudds - A - Lose
Hull KR - A - Lose
Wigan - H - Lose
Wakey - A - Win
Saints - H - Lose
Cas - A - Lose

We need to win a minimum of 7 of the above games. Is that possible?'"


Think we need enough wins to not be in the bottom 4, so how many is that. if you feel that's 7 then we're big trouble in my opinion

Out on their feet second half, which was a worry considering we had to do very little last Saturday, against a team that played on a heavy pitch a day later.

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Penny's defence was awful last night.......

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Quote: WireFanatic III "Penny's defence was awful last night.......'"



Are you taking over from Sally C?

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Quote: morleys_deckchair "Big improvement on the cas game.. the game was lost on the left side of our defence.. Patton, Currie, King and Ormsby had their hands full... you cant blame them, they're only young lads still, who will get bigger and better... It was only fair Smith gave them another game after Wakefield.. Im sure they will have learnt alot from the game.

Wigan bombed a few and Smith kicked very badly.... could have been a worse scoreline... Fair result, no complaints.

Nice to see a HB with a kicking game as well.... More positives than negatives.'"

A very fair summary on a very good game with improvements shown on both side I thought. But still some way to go for both teams.

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Quote: Bobby_Peru "Are you taking over from Sally C?'"


No-one can replace Sally, I'm just making the point that our defensive frailties are not solely linked to Kevin Penny.

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We gave it a dig but the bottom line is we arnt big enough in the pack.
We arnt strong and fast enough in the quarters.

Manfredi Gelling Burgess and dare I say Tomkins ran riot on us. These guys are 6"plus vat and feckin strong and fast.

I think all but perhaps one of their trys came from sweeping movements to the flanks from within their own half.

It's got to be said but even Joel is looking old, slow and lacking in body mass put up against the Pies quarter line.

Our forwards are just not big enough....it's so clear to see that now.

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I wouldn't get too excited by a 10 point loss to Wigan, but there undoubtedly were some positives and seeing Dec Patton out there in a big game and not looking at all out of place was exciting. And as someone who has been on his back before I would put in a word for Big Roy, he did the simple but tough things a prop has to do with effort. Sort of warming to him.

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The best about Roy is when he gets tackled he's back on his feet at speed. I say faster than any other player in our team. Interesting in contrast how good we was going forward for the 10 mins he and Hill were together and how we lost go forward when Sims came on.

I don't want to come across a Sims basher here. He has the desire and aggression but he's a welter weight up against heavy weights. He has to get off the chicken and pasta and on to the pie and chips then we might just get ourselves an Adrian Morley instead of Chris!

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I just don't get the constant harping about Sims. He was undoubtedly the best prop you had in the defeat against Saints. He played well again last night. If there's a "welterweight" in the Warrington side (aside from Asotasi - who seems more of a hole in the air) it's currently Hill. He looks a shadow of the player who played so well going down against Leeds in the GF.

The size thing is a complete non-issue. Wigan's pack has consistently performed poorly all season. They are very much undersized and underpowered with a back row that cannot function without gaps to run into.

As for Tomkins and Gelling, they towered just as equally over Saints make-shift three-quarters and yet they weren't running around/over/through their opposite numbers on Good Friday.

Had Warrington smashed Wigan's pack at the advantage line (as they have repeatedly over the last few years) Wigan's backs would have ceased to function. Instead you repeatedly allowed them to play the ball quickly, hardly ever followed up Myler's long kicking game and turned yardage into a charitable donation.

Indeed, the only time Warrington seemed motivated to keep Wigan penned in their own half was when the game was lost!

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